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    Yeah, thank god we dont have any "crumbling", infrastructure.
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    Undersized gusset plates in the Interstate 35-W bridge in Minneapolis were “the critical factor” in the bridge collapse last year that killed 13 people and injured 100, the National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    It did collapse.
    Not because it, "crumbled". That's the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not because it, "crumbled". That's the point.
    Whether it crumbled right after it was built, are lasted for a half-century; its still and interstate bridge and has to be replaced; mostly with federal funding. Reread my post #32.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Whether it crumbled right after it was built, are lasted for a half-century; its still and interstate bridge and has to be replaced; mostly with federal funding. Reread my post #32.
    Except that if it was built using a proper design, it would still be there.

    Using your logic, the fact that the WTC collapsed was due to bad building standards.

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    The following paragraph is quite interesting,

    "The president said the new strategy would end "long-term nation-building with large military footprints". The Pentagon would instead pursue a national security strategy based on "smaller conventional ground forces".

    It is/was a constant from top military commanders (Mcchrystal/Petraeus) et al that America's 'footprint' was indeed not big enough. If i remember correctly, the initial Iraq military expedition facilitated only half the amount of 'boots on the ground' that commanders were demanding. Fast forward to the latest Afghanistan surge, once again troop numbers fell well short of what commanders requested. So i suggest, the politicians footprint in no way matches the military aspiration.


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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Whether it crumbled right after it was built, are lasted for a half-century; its still and interstate bridge and has to be replaced; mostly with federal funding. Reread my post #32.
    If the dumbass that designed it, along with the dumbasses that maintained it had done their job, it wouldn't have collapsed.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    I'm all for the cuts. Cut, cut, cut. I just find it ironic that liberals are so behind it when, in the same breath, they bemoan that any cuts in spending will hurt the economy and cost Americans jobs. Using the "greater than the next top 10 combined" argument seems disingenuous when insisting that other spending be measured as a % of GDP and military spending be measured in nominal dollars.

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    I agree with samsmart that it's smart to cut the Army and Marine Corps first. I'm no expert on military strategy but it seems to me that in the age when we can put a bomb in someone's office from a drone at 80,000 feet that there is no need to continue supporting an infrastructure designed for outdated warfare.
    Luxembourg could spend 100% of its GDP on military operations and they would barely be a military rival of South Dakota. I think nominal dollars is a fine way to measure military spending because it's "number of tanks" rather than "tanks per capita" that determines your ability to invade a neighbor.

    We have more carrier battle groups than.... well, everybody. Not to mention a nuclear arsenal that makes large-scale war suicidal for everyone involved. You will not be placed in any more danger by spending cuts in the USMC.
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    Cut spending and the end result is? More jobs lost.

    Boeing to close plant in Kansas that employs more than 2,100

    Read more: Boeing to close plant in Kansas that employs more than 2,100 - The Denver Post Boeing to close plant in Kansas that employs more than 2,100 - The Denver Post
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not because it, "crumbled". That's the point.
    type in Portsmouth NH Memorial Bridge....

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I don't get the **** why people are so worried about the cuts.
    China is decades away from achieving what the US has already gotten right now. Even with hundreds of billions in cuts, the US will still have a defense budget that is bigger than the next 10 nations combined. Russia has proven itself inept in Georgia. Iran is far back from China. South Korean can handle North Korea alone, except for very high civilian casualties and damages, which can't be avoided even with US intervention (DMZ artillery).
    Sure, they will leave their marks, but it's like comparing a small cut on an athelete, then complaining how overweight kids might catch him/her up in sports.

    South korea can handle North Korea alone? Seems like a pretty big call to me but you obviously know more about it that I do. How does South Korea match up to the North in the amount of soliders they have?

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