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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    It now pays 100% tuition up to the cost of the most expensive state school in any give state. For example, in Texas, the post-9/11 GI Bill will pay 100% of tuition up to $60,000 a year.

    In addition, it pays the vet a housing allowance based on a married E-5, which is anywhere from $1,000-$2,200 depending on where you live.
    Gonzo, if you don't mind C/P a copy of this post and put it here for future references. you and MarineTpartier are more than welcome to sign in and put up your unit number with the rest of us.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So the amount you pay into the GI Bill is equal to your college tuition for the tenure of your studies there?
    I love when people purposely omit portions of someones counter point on here. I just said not everyone uses the bill, but still pay into it. Thats the offset.

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    YOU, BTW, have done nothing for my freedom other than participate in events which the government then uses as excuses to whittle away my freedom.
    Keep telling yourself that bro. That's why I do it, so you can say that.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you realize we spend almost as much on military as the rest of the world combined???

    Would you suggest we raise taxes to pay for this excessive military spending, or continue adding it on the National debt?

    Some folks are saying we have a debt problem..........
    And thats why we're the greatest nation in the world. Because no one can pull a Saddam on us and just bum rush the border whenever they feel like it. In addition, military spending only makes up 4.7% of GDP. I suggest we cut some un-needed programs before we go after the military. However, I will agree that there are some programs the military can cut. We can always be better stewards with taxpayer dollars, no question. But to say that it is good that my unit, for instance, cannot afford the fuel to drive 10 miles to a firing range nor the rounds to fire a qualification table until May is absurd. Not too absurd though because guess what. Its happening. Lets compare that to this. How would you feel if you found out your doctor was about to perform open heart surgery on you, but due to hospital funding, he hadn't practiced it in about 4 months. But, some people on this forum (not saying you) will be the first to demonize a Marine or soldier for missing his intended target in Afghanistan and hitting a civilian kid instead. Thats the trickle down effect of cutting funding for us in the manner that our gov't is doing it.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    And thats why we're the greatest nation in the world. Because no one can pull a Saddam on us and just bum rush the border whenever they feel like it. In addition, military spending only makes up 4.7% of GDP. I suggest we cut some un-needed programs before we go after the military. However, I will agree that there are some programs the military can cut. We can always be better stewards with taxpayer dollars, no question. But to say that it is good that my unit, for instance, cannot afford the fuel to drive 10 miles to a firing range nor the rounds to fire a qualification table until May is absurd. Not too absurd though because guess what. Its happening. Lets compare that to this. How would you feel if you found out your doctor was about to perform open heart surgery on you, but due to hospital funding, he hadn't practiced it in about 4 months. But, some people on this forum (not saying you) will be the first to demonize a Marine or soldier for missing his intended target in Afghanistan and hitting a civilian kid instead. Thats the trickle down effect of cutting funding for us in the manner that our gov't is doing it.
    Saddam??? Iraq was one of the weakest military countries on the planet when we invaded and occupied their country on behalf of big oil. If you feel beholden to big oil to the point you want to go racking up trillions more in debt, you do it without my support.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    No, I think we should cut the entitlements by 600 billion too, and raise taxes on everyone by about 10%.

    But, as evidenced by page 2 of this thread, as soon as you "save" money, someone else wants to spend it.

    Yes, all we have to do is sacrifice the well being of our own people to bring Democracy (they don't want) to everyone else. Makes perfect sense! LOL!
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Saddam??? Iraq was one of the weakest military countries on the planet when we invaded and occupied their country on behalf of big oil. If you feel beholden to big oil to the point you want to go racking up trillions more in debt, you do it without my support.
    Remember? Saddam bum rushed Kuwait in 90? You should be more spun up on military events if you want to post in a military forum man. I shouldn't have to spell that out.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Remember? Saddam bum rushed Kuwait in 90? You should be more spun up on military events if you want to post in a military forum man. I shouldn't have to spell that out.
    We completely destroyed that threat in the Persian Gulf war followed by our ten years of sanctions. Our invasion and occupation was for the benefit of big oil who had been locked out of Iraq for 35 years prior. They are now back in and they thank your for your service to them!
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, all we have to do is sacrifice the well being of our own people to bring Democracy (they don't want) to everyone else. Makes perfect sense! LOL!
    The program that makes up 25% of total spending must be cut, but the programs that make up 67% of total spending must stay as is, or expanded. Got it.

    And people say we have a spending problem....

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We completely destroyed that threat in the Persian Gulf war followed by our ten years of sanctions. Our invasion and occupation was for the benefit of big oil who had been locked out of Iraq for 35 years prior. They are now back in and they thank your for your service to them!
    OH MY GOD!!! I AM SAYING THAT WITHOUT A MILITARY, WE WOULD BE KUWAIT, GETTING BUM RUSHED BY A DICTATOR OR SOME OTHER WORLD SOCIOPATH!! I am having a hard time not throwing personal insults at you right now. Like that stupid little comment you added at the bottom of yours. Ungrateful people like you make me sick. Before I go into a Jack Nicholson "A Few Good Men" speech, I'll just stop.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I love when people purposely omit portions of someones counter point on here. I just said not everyone uses the bill, but still pay into it. Thats the offset.
    So your "offset" is that you're going to make others pay for your tuition, huh? I thought you wanted to be treated like everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Keep telling yourself that bro. That's why I do it, so you can say that.
    You personally have had no impact on my freedom of speech. You may live in your delusions of grandeur, but it doesn't change reality. There is no State which threatens our sovereignty nor have we been invaded.
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