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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OMG....SOCIALISM! hahahahah. So you're going to college on the government's dime. But the government's dime can't be handed out to others?
    Sorry bro, nice try at baiting me. I think a 22 year old kid, that sacrificed his college years defending your freedom, and pays into the program by the way, deserves that. That's called earning it. Avoiding a job and protesting people that do have them is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But...but...but...this is a tax credit, not a tax cut. Please, learn the difference.

    No one--with a half a brain--is going to spend $50,000 just so they can get a $3,000 tax credit, next year; unless th actually need that employee.
    No tax cuts, tax credits, or ANYTHING, is going to make an employer hire folks they don't need. With that in mind, why reduce taxes on the wealthy at all?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OMG....SOCIALISM! hahahahah. So you're going to college on the government's dime. But the government's dime can't be handed out to others?
    Maybe you should get a sign, go down to the next Obamaville that the occutards put up in your region, and protest for free stuff.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    The GI Bill is remuneration. Part of an employee's compensation package. As such, I don't view employer tax breaks for vets like Affirmative Action, but rather a continuance of said remuneration.

    I did not claim unemployment when I got out. Part of that was because I savde a crap ton of money up before I punched, so I didn't think I'd need it, and part of it was that I was really, really depressed for a couple months when I got out. I simply didn't feel like doing the paperwork. Or leaving the apartment, for that matter. If I had it to do over again, I would have filed the claim.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    No tax cuts, tax credits, or ANYTHING, is going to make an employer hire folks they don't need. With that in mind, why reduce taxes on the wealthy at all?
    I never said we should lower the tax rate. I've said numerous times that we should leave it alone, so as to create confidence and stability in the private sector.

    Coporations have no choice but to keep large cash reserves on hand, because they don't know what new fees and taxes Obamacare is bringing with it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Meat cleaver".........LOL! We will still be spending 3 times whats needed to meet the Constitutional requirement for National Defense, after the so-called cuts. It makes sense to cut our most wasteful spending first, but this is not nearly enough. Ron Paul has it right on National Defense.
    Please explain what you are talking about. What does “3 times whats needed to meet the Constitutional requirement for National Defense” even mean? Source?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'll give you a hint, I named it in the post you just responded to.
    What? Please explain what you mean without playing the “I’ll give you a hint” game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    You are lying to yourself if you call this a cut. It is a spending slow down. The defense budget with the propossed spending changes will still increase over the next decade.
    Like what Obama and the Democrats call cuts in government and social programs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But the reason why defense spending is being cut but social programs aren't is because defense spending is so bloated that it merits it. I mean congressmen funding jet engines that the Air Force doesn't want because their manufacture provides his district or state with jobs.

    We need to cut military spending and force the Pentagon to be much more efficient in how it spends money. Because there's a lot of waste there.
    I agree there is a lot of wasteful spending by the military as well as every government agency that has been or ever will be created.

    The problem is that we absolutely MUST have a strong military but all of the other government agencies and programs you adore aren’t required. You have your priorities backwards and if you have your way, you’ll destroy the US economy and make us too weak to defend ourselves and/or our allies.

    These aren’t just slowdowns in military growth, these are massive reductions in our military capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Sorry bro, nice try at baiting me. I think a 22 year old kid, that sacrificed his college years defending your freedom, and pays into the program by the way, deserves that. That's called earning it. Avoiding a job and protesting people that do have them is not.
    But you wanted to be treated like everyone else. If so, then you make your own way through college like everyone else. Of course you're going to try to rationalize it away. People who recieve government handouts are rarely willing to give them up. And oft willing to try to argue why their handout is justified while others not. You're just part of the same group there.

    You're welcome for your education, BTW.
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