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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I don't even understand the point trying to be made here? Is there one? Catawba, you do a good job debating by posting cartoons in the Political Cartoon Thread, and that's about it.
    The point it helps address the much higher unemployment rate for Veterans while at the same time helping business. That is why it passed with bipartisan support and the approval of the majority of Americans. I have yet to see any proof of your claim the measure was opposed by a majority of Vets. This seems extremely unlikely!

    So I will await your proof.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The point it helps address the much higher unemployment rate for Veterans while at the same time helping business. That is why it passed with bipartisan support and the approval of the majority of Americans. I have yet to see any proof of your claim the measure was opposed by a majority of Vets. This seems extremely unlikely!

    So I will await your proof.
    Are you in the military? I think not. I am, I hear it everyday, there's your proof. I'm done debating with you. A poll will never come out, just like with any other entitlement or benefit for groups that receive them, because D.C. doesn't want to see that their handouts aren't wanted. Go post another funny cartoon or something.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The point it helps address the much higher unemployment rate for Veterans while at the same time helping business. That is why it passed with bipartisan support and the approval of the majority of Americans. I have yet to see any proof of your claim the measure was opposed by a majority of Vets. This seems extremely unlikely!

    So I will await your proof.
    Every guy or gal getting out of the Marines had to go to what's called SEPS and TAPS training - basically two weeks of "how to fill out resume's" "what your VA benefits are", etc. One of the lessons they pound home to everyone is "you rate 6 months of unemployment benefits even if you intend to go to school on the GI Bill, so make sure you apply". And so, most do. "Veterans Unemployment" numbers are thus wildly inflated by that initial application.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no...why?????
    Sounds like a talking point. Slim down, to what point? Maybe two aircraft carriers and a 100K man military? On what do you base your assertion?
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Yes, I have read it. I am a Vet and we take offense to it. Its like reverse Affirmative Action. I don't want preferential treatment. I want to be treated like everyone else. If I'm not competitive, don't hire me. This is how the libs operate. They think, "If we give them entitlements, they will support us just like the blacks, unions, environmentalists, gays, etc." It would really bug me if I applied for a job and found out I was hired for a tax break over a guy who has put in hard work and gone to college to get the same job. Honestly, I would quit if I found that out. Unlike all these Occupiers with their iPhones, I'm not above working at McDonald's. I'll work anywhere before I accept unemployment.
    I always hired vets who came, young or old...though mostly young. Why? Because I know they will work harder, try harder, and in general, be more agreable, than anyone else. Sometimes I hire someone who has a chip on their shoulder...but for the most part, it's never let me down. The army and the marines, hell, even the navy and airforce, develop damn good work ethic in people. It's why former soldiers tend to find at least a certain level of success in their lives, I think.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Every guy or gal getting out of the Marines had to go to what's called SEPS and TAPS training - basically two weeks of "how to fill out resume's" "what your VA benefits are", etc. One of the lessons they pound home to everyone is "you rate 6 months of unemployment benefits even if you intend to go to school on the GI Bill, so make sure you apply". And so, most do. "Veterans Unemployment" numbers are thus wildly inflated by that initial application.
    This is a true story.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Every guy or gal getting out of the Marines had to go to what's called SEPS and TAPS training - basically two weeks of "how to fill out resume's" "what your VA benefits are", etc. One of the lessons they pound home to everyone is "you rate 6 months of unemployment benefits even if you intend to go to school on the GI Bill, so make sure you apply". And so, most do. "Veterans Unemployment" numbers are thus wildly inflated by that initial application.
    GREAT POINT! Wish I woulda thought of it lol. I didn't even know the 6 month rule though. I'm still active so I don't know every benefit I should though. Wish I could give you two likes for this one.
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Like a tax credit is going to cause new hiring. Companies aren't going to spend 50 grand, just to get a $3,000 tax credit.

    That's nothing more than a political hat trick to ake people think that you give a ****.
    But....but.....if we cut their taxes then there will be more jobs...right? High taxes are stifling job hires I believe is a common mantra from your side. Here's tax credits for every veteran they hire, it's a tax break. But this tax break won't produce jobs?
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm not one of the guys you are talking about whose job skills translate directly. I am a ground pounder. Guess what I'm doing when I get out? Going to college with an awesome GI Bill. If a kid is too stupid to take advantage, he needs to struggle until he figures it out.
    OMG....SOCIALISM! hahahahah. So you're going to college on the government's dime. But the government's dime can't be handed out to others?
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But....but.....if we cut their taxes then there will be more jobs...right? High taxes are stifling job hires I believe is a common mantra from your side. Here's tax credits for every veteran they hire, it's a tax break. But this tax break won't produce jobs?
    But...but...but...this is a tax credit, not a tax cut. Please, learn the difference.

    No one--with a half a brain--is going to spend $50,000 just so they can get a $3,000 tax credit, next year; unless th actually need that employee.
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