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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Lobbying money is generally the best investment a company can make in our broken system. Studies suggest that corporations typically receive a 600% to 2000% return on their lobbying dollars.
    Hell yeah they do; one of the best investment strategies ever. Goes to show how easily our system is bought.
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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    At their present net income after taxes, a 1% increase would be about 10 million. Is that "HUGE"?
    The net increase was actually 1.4%, not 1%. Not sure where you get your numbers, but they are WAAAY off. If UnitedHealth Group alone increased it's net by 1.4% it would mean an additional $1.3 BILLION in profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If UnitedHealth Group alone increased it's net by 1.4% it would mean an additional $1.3 BILLION in profit.
    Maybe some people don't think a billion guaranteed by the government (via forcing people to have insurance) isn't that much. But hell, I'd take it.
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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think they just put it off. It is inevitable that there will be a public option.
    And, just think of all the jobs that are going to be lost.
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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, just think of all the jobs that are going to be lost.
    untying health insurance from employment would be a massive weight removed from employers. if there's another first world nation that uses this inefficient method, i sure haven't heard about it.

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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Fact is that Obama passed a boondoggle. After promising that he would lower premiums and costs, by an average of $2500 per year for the average household, we have instead seen costs rise across the board. We are looking at more debt because of Obamacare in the coming years, not the promised savings. And this is with Obama bribing Senators to pass this POS.

    This is what happens when one party gets total control. Thanks Obama. Jackass.

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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Yeah, the sad reality is that the insurance companies/tea party managed to kill the parts of the plan designed to keep costs/profit taking down.

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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Yeah, the sad reality is that the insurance companies/tea party managed to kill the parts of the plan designed to keep costs/profit taking down.
    Good grief. The Tea Party had zero input or influence, as the bill needed no vote from anyone Tea Party to pass. This is a 100% Democrat/Obama creation. Own it for once.

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    PPACA passed the Senate on December 24, 2009, by a vote of 60–39 with all Democrats and two Independents voting for, and all Republicans voting against.[8] It passed the House of Representatives on March 21, 2010, by a vote of 219–212, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against the bill.
    That's from Wikipedia. Show me the Tea Party component of the affirmative vote, if you will ? Thanks.
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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think they just put it off. It is inevitable that there will be a public option.
    We cannot afford a public option...
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Insurers Profit From Health Law They Fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    untying health insurance from employment would be a massive weight removed from employers. if there's another first world nation that uses this inefficient method, i sure haven't heard about it.
    Most first world nations are falling on their asses, because they can no longer pay the bills, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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