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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I spent more than a few years in the nuclear industry....spent fuel is currently being stored locally, all over the place....
    but you would have to go to considerable effort for it to harm you. You would have to shoot all the gaurds, break into the right places, bypass all safety and security features, and then either dive to the bottom of a pool or break open some very sturdy casks....
    Not gonna happen.... [...]
    Not gonna happen over the next 10,000 years?

    Were there not some issues with stored spent fuel at Fukushima?

    What happens to these spent fuel pools if, no one is shot, no break-in is attempted, and no safety features are bypassed -- but the power simply goes out (and the redundant systems fail, as they did at Fukushima)?

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    you won't bother becuase you can't....if you have any education, training, experience to give you credibility, say so. Until then, you are just a faint odor in the wind....

    Quoting statistics is fine, but explain them if you can. Spent fuel at 62,000 metric tons seems like a lot, but compare it to the amount of ash (spent coal) from coal fired plants and use volume as well as weight, and you get a bit more info. Spent nuclear fuel is considerably less volume than ash. Ash isn't being contained, or properly stored anywhere, but people don't seem to be afraid of it.

    That's interesting Bill. Years ago when I drove dump trucks for a living, we used to have a contract with BG&E to pick up, and transport to the quarry fly ash from the local electric plant. It was taken to the quarry, and basically buried much like a dump would take care of waste. What are the concerns of that process?

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we already have I HATE OBAMA threads, this one is not about that....
    China buying Canadas oil because Obama wouldnt approve a pipeline is NOT about Obama???

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    It is your contention that spent nuclear fuel is low level waste?
    never said that, how could you possibly infer that? spent fuel is deadly, death by internal sunburn, cooked internal organs....
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    China buying Canadas oil because Obama wouldnt approve a pipeline is NOT about Obama???
    Obama is the only one against it? He has the power by himself to kill it? He can veto, but congress can override...
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Ah. A strawman is presented in lieu of answers that are not known, despite the claims made. Shocking.
    you sure love your strawmen...

    Why dont you tell me how much spent nuclear fuel energy solutions is currently handeling, then explain why that even matters to the context of this argument?

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Obama is the only one against it? He has the power by himself to kill it? He can veto, but congress can override...
    But Obama didnt fight for it or endorse it so that point is moot.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Not gonna happen over the next 10,000 years?

    Were there not some issues with stored spent fuel at Fukushima?

    What happens to these spent fuel pools if, no one is shot, no break-in is attempted, and no safety features are bypassed -- but the power simply goes out (and the redundant systems fail, as they did at Fukushima)?
    you have links to spent fuel issues at Fukushima? ever seen a spent fuel pool? they don't have a drain system, as they are not meant to ever be drained....
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    But Obama didnt fight for it or endorse it so that point is moot.
    like congress cares what he likes or endorses...
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I won't because I won't. Feel free to bloviate about off topics all you want, but don't expect me to follow.

    You do fine when you discuss something you obviously know about like nuclear issues. My advice is to stay away from topics you obviously know nothing about because you look silly when you start making things up trying to score points.
    again, address that to yourself....
    what are the topics you know something about? it isn't nuclear, so why are you here? what did I make up?
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