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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

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    Perhaps more coal for industry is also in America's "special interest". More energy in all its forms as well though also being aware of societal impacts.

    It's amazing how American's have come to divide themselves into "special interests" groups, a hollow phrase with little meaning but one with sinister conspiratorial implications that has somehow struck a chord among many on the Left
    Then you have one hell of a weird notion of what the left is. Dwight Eisenhower warned us about the Military-Industrial complex before he left office. I guess that makes him a hippie commie too, right? LOL.
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Then you have one hell of a weird notion of what the left is. Dwight Eisenhower warned us about the Military-Industrial complex before he left office. I guess that makes him a hippie commie too, right? LOL.
    I wouldn't worry about it Dan, Grant sees the world through very special glasses. I will not be ordering a pair of them myself.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I wouldn't worry about it Dan, Grant sees the world through very special glasses. I will not be ordering a pair of them myself.
    Are you talking about those special glasses with black lenses? Actually, those are called blinders.

    Here is how to use them - If someone disagrees with you:

    1) But on special glasses.

    2) Put your fingers in your ears.

    3) Close your eyes, just in case the glasses break.

    4) Call whoever disagrees with you "One o' dem evul Leebruls".

    5) And don't forget to add a Rush Limbaugh talking point, while you are ranting about those dirty hippie commies.
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    This is just great. One more step towards being under the thumb of a communist super giant. We are already their lap dogs, soon to be their bioches. I dont think America even has the will to try to get out from under it. We are perfectly content continuing to borrow money from them, and living off the crumbs from the masters table. We should be drilling all over that region. Alaska should be a porcupine of drilling rigs right now. Instead be allow out economy to crumble because of the exorbitant rise of petroleum prices. If there is ONE thing that could curb the rise of inflation, and calm the troubled waters of out economy, it would be turning inward to our own sources of oil. If the price of gas were to drop back to even $1 a gallon (which would not be hard), EVERY SINGLE COMMODITY in the country would drop with it. I cant think of anything that isnt in some way dependant on the price of oil. Whether it be shipping costs, or the petroleum used in its manufacture. Every facet of our lives depends on oil. And yet are almost completely dependent on outside countries for it.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Nothing new really. China is on a world-wide shopping trip for oil and gas. Thats where you get maxumum returns.
    What better way to get out of debt to them, than to buy up all the oil rights we can and then sell the oil to china at the inflated rates they charge us for everything? That, and impose the same importing taxes on their imports that they do on our exports.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Having a foreign company own a small resource play is not an issue when we have sold off majority stakes and entire companies to foreign companies in the mining business (Nickel specifically)
    But it IS an issue! Just because we have done worse does not justify this! We shouldn't do either! Its never a good idea to give power to another government that doesnt have your best interests in mind. That can be said about a corporation as well.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Allowing another to control your most critical resources is never clever. Of course, a lot of people complaining about China's "unfair trade" practices are really just angry they can't apply a similar arithmetic to China's critical resources like has been done in places like Nigeria.
    Thats the ironic part. If other countries were smarter, they would hold China over the fire for everything! China is so overpopulated, they need to import almost every basic resource from other countries. We could have China completly dependant on us if we didnt have a bunch of bleeding heart liberals in power over the last 50 years. Instead of helping China in a way that would let us maintain a sembelance of control, we let them take over to the point that they now have huge amounts of power of the very countries that thought they were "helping" them just a few short years ago. You cant tell me thats not ironic.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Then you have one hell of a weird notion of what the left is. Dwight Eisenhower warned us about the Military-Industrial complex before he left office. I guess that makes him a hippie commie too, right? LOL.
    Does it?

    Perhaps we should focus on the topic at hand rather than whether Dwight Eisenhower was a hippie commie or not.
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Thats the ironic part. If other countries were smarter, they would hold China over the fire for everything! China is so overpopulated, they need to import almost every basic resource from other countries. We could have China completly dependant on us if we didnt have a bunch of bleeding heart liberals in power over the last 50 years. Instead of helping China in a way that would let us maintain a sembelance of control, we let them take over to the point that they now have huge amounts of power of the very countries that thought they were "helping" them just a few short years ago. You cant tell me thats not ironic.
    Just the interest on the money owed China will soon be enough to pay for their military.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Maybe now the US will get serious about getting off oil and moving toward a renewable energy source we can make in-house.

    The handwriting has been on the wall for decades - Jimmy Carter saw it back in the 1970s and tried to implement a plan to avert the US being hostage to countries that control oil. The oil industry was not having it and started contributing heavily to political campaigns creating a second mess we are still dealing with today.
    So, instead of concentrating on getting our hands on actual energy sources, we've spent thousands of man hours and billions of dollars trying to make a phonograph needle out of a peanut.
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