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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Everyone who knows the details of shale oil, and oil shale (they are not the same), already knows that I am right. A childish way to debate is to regurgitate right wing populist propaganda and then evade technical questions that would disprove their claims.
    How can you be right about shale oil and oil shale when you havent said two words about it not being a viable option. Tell me Karl, why will shale not work? Its there, we can get it. Why wont it work?


    That is a claim borne of delusion.... which is one reason you can only mindlessly (childishly?) repeat it, over and over, instead of providing facts and figures to prove it.
    And yet you yourself provide nothing...

    How much of your treasure trove of oil can you get out of the ground, suitable for refining, measured in barrels per day?
    I dont have the answer to that question. I could make something up but that wouldnt accomplish anything. Instead why dont you show my the proof you claim to have that says we cannot keep up with our own demand?

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it is not in our best interest to become as energy independent as possible to the exclusion of all other considerations.
    All other considerations?? It may be to the exclusion of environmentalists, but not all other considerations. And especially if the alternative is to be at the mercy of a foreign government for our energy. They can and do fluctuate their prices to suit their whims. Its killing our economy.
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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    It looks to me like the Chinese are using their trade surpluses in fiat currencies to acquire assets, commodities, future needs, in forms less volatile and more useful than the lovely, printing with tricks and pretty monies of "faith," that are accumulating in their vaults. Trees (lumber), tar sands (energy), mines (metals), etc. are far better investment strategies for a dynamic, growing country, than souvenirs of past greatness that most "fiat" currencies represent. Since we or Canada passed these "notes" in the form of "fiat" currency to the Chinese, we are honor bound to accept them in good faith when they return to our or Canada's shores. Don't you think?

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Any so-called article attempting to refute a joint study by the U.S. BLM and the Rand Corporation with information from Wikipedia is a laugher.

    Try again.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it is not in our best interest to become as energy independent as possible to the exclusion of all other considerations.
    I think you summed up the left's problems on energy quite succinctly.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I think you summed up the left's problems on energy quite succinctly.
    And vice versa.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And vice versa.
    Did you get that deep thought from Wiki ??

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Did you get that deep thought from Wiki ??
    Nah, Rush Limbaugh.

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    How can you be right about shale oil and oil shale when you havent said two words about it not being a viable option. Tell me Karl, why will shale not work? Its there, we can get it. Why wont it work?
    So, your unproven claim is correct unless someone can prove it wrong -- that's your argument?

    Your original claim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty, in post #191 View Post
    [...] There is more oil to be found within the borders of our own country than we could possibly hope to use in 1000 years of driving oil burning, piece of crap, pre emission regulated trucks! [...] We need to drill here, and drill now. [...]
    When asked for details on how that would work:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty, in post #221 View Post
    [...] I dont have the answer to that question. [...]
    I think we're done here...

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    Re: PetroChina buys entire Alberta oilsands project

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So, your unproven claim is correct unless someone can prove it wrong -- that's your argument?
    Hahahaha i could say the same thing about your electric car scenario! You wanna talk about unproven lets start there! And since shale oil IS a proven source, you have no point.

    And dont start manipulating what i said Karl, i said i dont have the answer to the following question you asked:


    How much of your treasure trove of oil can you get out of the ground, suitable for refining, measured in barrels per day?
    If you had any credibility to start with, you would have lost it right there. You cant take peoples comments and twist them to suit your needs. I cant answer such a vague question because there are a lot of variables involved and i dont work in the oil industry. If you want details as to the method of extraction, i can certainly provide those.

    Just go home Karl, i dont see a lot of people agreeing with you here and your just talking yourself into a corner with your flagrant inability to carry on a conversation.
    Last edited by Dpetty; 01-13-12 at 04:11 PM.

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