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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Obama didn't break any laws, the GOP can take full responsibility for this. This man is the president of the United States, give him his staff, he has every right to have whomever he wishes. This pathetic childs play by the GOP to deny our commander and chief an opportunity to appoint who he feels necessary just sickens me. I can promise you that Obama has a whole team of lawyers and advisers. If they have ANY doubt this would be a constitutional violation, there is just no way he would pull this 1 year out from elections. Case closed. Still no scandal GOP, sorry, keep trying.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Obama didn't break any laws, the GOP can take full responsibility for this. This man is the president of the United States, give him his staff, he has every right to have whomever he wishes. This pathetic childs play by the GOP to deny our commander and chief an opportunity to appoint who he feels necessary just sickens me. I can promise you that Obama has a whole team of lawyers and advisers. If they have ANY doubt this would be a constitutional violation, there is just no way he would pull this 1 year out from elections. Case closed. Still no scandal GOP, sorry, keep trying.
    What a crock. The Constitution itself makes it clear that the President "does not get who he wants" without also getting the consent of the Senate.

    Obama's decision was about politics. Not the law. And not about the Republic. Obama doesn't give a crap about anything but his own ass being reelected.

    He's already got the lemming vote, but thanks for the reminder.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Obama didn't break any laws, the GOP can take full responsibility for this. This man is the president of the United States, give him his staff, he has every right to have whomever he wishes.
    I'll bet you didn't feel that way when Bush was President. Besides that, what other part of the Constitution should we ignore while The Chosen One is in office?
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    a vote on his appointment was filibustered on Dec. 8th.
    Incorrect.

    There has only been one time where Richard Cordray was ever before any members of the Senate and that was Tuesday, September 6, 2011...it was not for a confirmation hearing, it was his official nomination hearing in front of the Senate - to be more exact - it was the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.

    Cordray's opening statement to the committee can be found at http://banking.senate.gov/public/ind...a-d9471615ff3c

    He hasnt even made it out of committee yet.

    The Committee is led by Chairman Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Ranking Member Richard C. Shelby (R-AL). The Committee is currently made up of 22 Senators; 12 Democrat, and 10 Republican.
    If the Democrats wanted to pass him through committee all they would have to do is vote, they have a 12-10 majority and chair the committee, the Repubs could NOT stop his passage to the floor for a vote. Oh wait a minute, Senator Reid, Senate Majority Leader, hasnt scheduled a vote yet....BECAUSE HE IS STILL IN COMMITTEE.

    This is nothing more than games played by our beloved politicians to lie and distort the facts, once you actually take the partisan blinders off and look at those facts you would realize it is NOT the Repubs holding this up, it is purely the Democrats inaction that is holding up this nominee.

    Democrats have NOT passed him through committee yet, the Democrats (Reid) has not scheduled a Senate vote yet.

    But keep blaming Republicans for this...Heavens knows there isnt enough already you can actually blame them for that you have to make stuff up.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    What a crock. The Constitution itself makes it clear that the President "does not get who he wants" without also getting the consent of the Senate.
    Except when the Senate is in recess.

    So enough of this hysterical crap about dictatorships. At best, you have a dispute over the meaning of the rules.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Except when the Senate is in recess.

    So enough of this hysterical crap about dictatorships. At best, you have a dispute over the meaning of the rules.
    Which the Senate was not in recess. As per the Constitution, the Senate establishes their rules. The Senate was IN SESSION in accordance with their rules. Not sure why so many are having a hard time understanding that fact.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Which the Senate was not in recess. As per the Constitution, the Senate establishes their rules. The Senate was IN SESSION in accordance with their rules. Not sure why so many are having a hard time understanding that fact.
    Which rule? Can you cite it please?
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Which rule? Can you cite it please?
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    The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
    The Senate was in Pro Forma session. They were not in recess. This is cut and dry.

    U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Glossary > pro forma session

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
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    Cite it please. Which rule?

    The Senate was in Pro Forma session. They were not in recess. This is cut and dry.
    No it's not.

    Pro forma session prevents adjournment, but not necessarily a recess.

    U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Glossary > pro forma session[/QUOTE]
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post

    Pro forma session prevents adjournment, but not necessarily a recess.

    U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Glossary > pro forma session
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    Ummm...if the Senate has not adjourned, they're still in session. They cannot be on recess while still in session. Cut and dry.

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