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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    ..Basically, before you go ad-hom again, due to your being ignorant to the subject discussed, maybe STFU a little and get informed.
    wow, that's mature.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    sorry, but Article 1 Section 5 is rules for Congress, not for the President.

    either way, did 51 Senators show up for work on January 4th?

    no? then they were unable to vote on any laws.

    if you don't have a quorum, then you cannot conduct business, and you are not really in session.
    If it were a Republican president involved, the critics would be saying this over and over.
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    Re: Obama defies Congress with ‘recess’ picks

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    How does any of what you posted contradict what I said?

    Just because a few congressmen think there isn't enough accountability doesn't mean there isn't.

    How about you? Do you think every single government agency and department should be run by a board? We should have five Secretaries of Defense?
    I did not know that Defense was a watchdog department ... who knew !!!!

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    If it were a Republican president involved, the critics would be saying this over and over.
    well, I can only speak for myself, and I think what Obama did was fair...considering the context of GOP obstructionism.

    if a Republican POTUS was faced with similar shenanigans, I would support a similar move.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    If it were a Republican president involved, the critics would be saying this over and over.
    When it was a Republican President involved, and to appoint someone who was not a Judge, but rather into the Attorney General's Office, Bush honored the Constitution, and did not pull an Obama. You do not have to imply hypocrisy. You have actual results that show that you are ill-informed in your opinion.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    When it was a Republican President involved, and to appoint someone who was not a Judge, but rather into the Attorney General's Office, Bush honored the Constitution,....
    that may have been the first & last time, King George honored any federal law.

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    Re: Obama defies Congress with ‘recess’ picks

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    I did not know that Defense was a watchdog department ... who knew !!!!
    So now you've moved the goalpost to say only "watchdog" departments need more accountability? Why?
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    When it was a Republican President involved, and to appoint someone who was not a Judge, but rather into the Attorney General's Office, Bush honored the Constitution, and did not pull an Obama. You do not have to imply hypocrisy. You have actual results that show that you are ill-informed in your opinion.
    No, I'm saying that if Bush had done a recess appointment like Obama did, you'd see many conservatives supporting him instead of bashing him like they're doing with Obama.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    well, I can only speak for myself, and I think what Obama did was fair...considering the context of GOP obstructionism.

    if a Republican POTUS was faced with similar shenanigans, I would support a similar move.
    Right. So you're consistent and non-partisan. I commend you for that.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Right. So you're consistent and non-partisan. I commend you for that.
    I believe in democracy. And if you don't have enough votes to kill an agency, then work on getting more votes. Don't play games with filibusters and perpetual pro forma sessions to keep the inevitable from taking place.

    obstructionism in the face of majority rule, is wrong.

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