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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You keep repeating a fundamental question here, and it has been posted for quite some time now by not only myself, but others as well. I am going to give you ONE last chance....

    According to Article 1 Section 5 of the United States Constitution, Neither house can adjourn for recess without the consent of the other. Now, if you are so darned confident that the Senate was adjourned to recess on January 4th, 2012, then I am sure you can show us the consent of the house for them to do so, and the actual gavel minutes adjourning? Without that you are talking out of your ass.

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    check the calendar of Congressional activity. neither house was in session on January 4th, which makes any Recess Appointments by POTUS legal.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/home/ds/s1122.html

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    check the calendar of Congressional activity. neither house was in session on January 4th, which makes any Recess Appointments by POTUS legal.

    Days in Session - 112th Congress 2nd Session - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    They were in pro forma session because there was no recess pursuant to Article 1 Section 5. Thanks for proving my point.


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They were in pro forma session because there was no recess pursuant to Article 1 Section 5. Thanks for proving my point.


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    and if the GOP is going to hold pro forma sessions ALL year long, thereby trying to prevent the President from making any recess appointments, the President is right to do what he did.

    if the GOP is gonna **** around with the rules, Obama should do the same.

    don't like it? take it to court.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and if the GOP is going to hold pro forma sessions ALL year long, thereby trying to prevent the President from making any recess appointments, the President is right to do what he did.

    if the GOP is gonna **** around with the rules, Obama should do the same.

    don't like it? take it to court.

    Oh that is where it is headed...And Obama will lose this one. Rules are rules whether you like them or not.

    So I take it that you are conceding that Obama violated Article 1 Section 5, and circumvented the rules of the congress by is installation of these people?

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The completely undisguised gay slur you posted above puts the lie to your claim. Or maybe you're just drunk or stoned?
    Maybe you need to get informed:

    Barney Frank knocked on his Fannie

    Rep admits to helping lover land job at mortgage giant in ’91

    U.S. Rep. Barney Frank admitted he helped his ex-lover land a lucrative post with Fannie Mae in the early 1990s while the Newton Democrat was on a committee that regulated the lending giant — but he called questions of a potential ethical conflict “nonsense.”

    “If it is (a conflict of interest), then much of Washington is involved (in conflicts),” Frank told the Herald last night. “It is a common thing in Washington for members of Congress to have spouses work for the federal government. There is no rule against it at all.”

    read here doofus: Barney Frank knocked on his Fannie - BostonHerald.com
    Which actually lends far more credence to my point about Frank, conflict of interest (Fannie and Freddie not regulated under Dodd-Frank) and a very appropriate quip about Barney and his fannie's fannie at fannie being a further part of the lack of confidence in Frank !!

    Basically, before you go ad-hom again, due to your being ignorant to the subject discussed, maybe STFU a little and get informed.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh that is where it is headed...And Obama will lose this one. Rules are rules whether you like them or not.

    So I take it that you are conceding that Obama violated Article 1 Section 5, and circumvented the rules of the congress by is installation of these people?

    j-mac
    sorry, but Article 1 Section 5 is rules for Congress, not for the President.

    either way, did 51 Senators show up for work on January 4th?

    no? then they were unable to vote on any laws.

    if you don't have a quorum, then you cannot conduct business, and you are not really in session.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    False. What the GOP is doing is a partisan maneuver. What Obama is doing is not.
    Recess appointments are a partisan maneuver. Further, as discussed in another thread here, the two Democrats he put on the NLRB Board the same day via Recess Appointment were never submitted to the Senate while it was in regular session ! Just straight to appointment !! Whooo Hooo, eh ?

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Recess appointments are a partisan maneuver. Further, as discussed in another thread here, the two Democrats he put on the NLRB Board the same day via Recess Appointment were never submitted to the Senate while it was in regular session!...
    what day were these appointments made?

    how many Senators showed up for work that day?

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Maybe you need to get informed:



    Which actually lends far more credence to my point about Frank, conflict of interest (Fannie and Freddie not regulated under Dodd-Frank) and a very appropriate quip about Barney and his fannie's fannie at fannie being a further part of the lack of confidence in Frank !!

    Basically, before you go ad-hom again, due to your being ignorant to the subject discussed, maybe STFU a little and get informed.
    Sorry, but it was still a disparaging reference to Frank's sexual preference, and you know it.

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    Re: Obama defies Congress with ‘recess’ picks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh my Freakin' GAWD! you can NOT be serious here....
    How does any of what you posted contradict what I said?

    Just because a few congressmen think there isn't enough accountability doesn't mean there isn't.

    How about you? Do you think every single government agency and department should be run by a board? We should have five Secretaries of Defense?
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