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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    We asked the same of the last absurd rant, but how about a link ?
    A link showing what? That the Republicans are trying to block everything? Obviously you're aware of that, so I'm not sure what you're looking for.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Trouble is, his "balls" are between his ears. In many parts, we just call that being stupid. Or arrogant. They are close cousins.
    The facts are that Obama has used recess appointments fewer that recent presidents.



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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The facts are that Obama has used recess appointments fewer that recent presidents.

    Which is fine, but it is not about "Recess Appointments". It is about violating the Recess Rule of the Senate, a rule Obama not only supported, but which his own DoJ argued before the SCOTUS.

    Now, I will enlighten you Grasshopper. Obama is the only President on the chart that had a super-majority in the Senate for any time at all. And he had it for two years.

    Do you understand how that matters with appointments ?

    No charge. You owe me when I show some ignorance, and you are in a position to help me, is all.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Which is fine, but it is not about "Recess Appointments". It is about violating the Recess Rule of the Senate, a rule Obama not only supported, but which his own DoJ argued before the SCOTUS.

    Now, I will enlighten you Grasshopper. Obama is the only President on the chart that had a super-majority in the Senate for any time at all. And he had it for two years.

    Do you understand how that matters with appointments ?

    No charge. You owe me when I show some ignorance, and you are in a position to help me, is all.
    You are trying to split hairs because Obama is doing basically the exact same thing you had no problem with when conservative presidents did it. You don't want recess appointments, then stop playing politics with the process. If you play politics with the process, I don't want to hear crying about things like this.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are trying to split hairs because Obama is doing basically the exact same thing you had no problem with when conservative presidents did it. You don't want recess appointments, then stop playing politics with the process. If you play politics with the process, I don't want to hear crying about things like this.
    Bullchit. Show me where Conservatives pulled this stunt with ignoring the 3-day gavel rule ?

    If you don't want to hear it, then put your hands over your ears for chrissakes. Otherwise, I cannot help it that you can't handle the truth.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    "The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session."

    US Constitution, Article 2, section 2, clause 3.

    Period.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    "The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session."

    US Constitution, Article 2, section 2, clause 3.

    Period.
    Yet, by Obama's own argument, the Senate was not in Recess. And by his own DoJ argument. And by Harry Reid four years ago.

    Need I go on ?

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are trying to split hairs because Obama is doing basically the exact same thing you had no problem with when conservative presidents did it. You don't want recess appointments, then stop playing politics with the process. If you play politics with the process, I don't want to hear crying about things like this.
    Dang, Redress, you go! I've plopped a fat "like" next to nearly every one of your posts in this thread, and still want to give you another "attaboy". These partisian whinefests are absolutely nauseating. I've read this same thread at least ten times in the past ten years on political forums, and the only thing that changes is the party of the whiners. When it's a GOP prez, the whiners are all Democrats and the Repubs are chortling, "It's all good!" Now a Democrat prez is doing it, the whiners are all republicans, and the Democrats are chortling, "It's all good!"

    If this country doesn't use the toilet paper necessary to wipe up the partisian **** stain that is our "government", we're going to implode completely into a partisian civil war... with real damned guns. Nobody in government cares about this country or its people. They only care about and answer to their holy grail, "The Party." Now what country does THAT remind us of, hmmm?

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yet, by Obama's own argument, the Senate was not in Recess. And by his own DoJ argument. And by Harry Reid four years ago.

    Need I go on ?

    "Comma"
    You're confusing two different things. The DOJ said that the recess has to be longer than three days- meaning no three day weekend recess appointments. What the senate is trying to do is not take a recess at all to prevent Obama from ever using the power granted to him by the constitution. That's a whole different ball of wax, and the constitution clearly sides with Obama on that. Procedural rules and tricks of the senate do not overrule the US constitution, and courts do not interpret the constitution as a mere technicality to be circumvented with clever wording.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yes, as have many Presidents. There is a time when Recess appointments are valid, and fullly in compliance with both the law, and intent, of the Founders.

    The point is, the Senate is not now in "Recess". Obama made a deliberate choice ot not work with teh Senate when he could. So the Senate chose to not be in Recess. And the specific law that created this job said that the Director must be approved by the Senate.
    In order to not be in recess, pro-forma sessions must be held each and every day, while Congress is on vacation. Was one held the day Obama made his recess appointment? If not, then the Senate was in recess.
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