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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And Harry Reid, 2007:
    The difference between now and 2007 is that, in 2007, the Democrats held pro-forma sessions every day, to stymie Bush appointees, and since the Democrats controlled the Senate at the time, 51-49, they were able to do this. This time they did not, because the Democrats still control the Senate, and decided not to hold a pro forma-session on the day Obama made his appointments. Was it a Democratic conspiracy to install Obama's appointees? You bet it was, but it was legal too, since Democrats control the Senate.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    WTF are you talking about? Every agency promulgates rules. That's why we have the Administrative Procedures Act.
    The rules are in section 1066 of the law. You dont get to rewrite the pertinent sections of the law. Congress has to do that. Keep in mind this is a left leaning source, which is why I chose it. http://news.wolterskluwerlb.com/medi...efing08-11.pdf

    Although the CFPB can exercise its transferred functions
    authorities, the Inspectors General’s analysis noted that
    the agency’s newly-established federal consumer financial
    regulatory authorities cannot be exercised by Treasury
    under its Section 1066 interim authority. These new powers
    only can be exercised by a Senate-confirmed director.
    I thought Id toss this in as well : The Dodd-Frank Act

    Dodd Frank Act Section 1066
    SEC. 1066. INTERIM AUTHORITY OF THE SECRETARY.

    (a) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary is authorized to perform the functions of the Bureau under this subtitle until the Director of the Bureau is confirmed by the Senate in accordance with section 1011.
    WTF am I talking about? The dang law. I dont know wtf you are talking about though.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    wait, so you're saying Reid won't allow an up or down vote on this person?
    Has a vote been scheduled yet? Have the confirmation hearings even commenced? Not that I am aware of.

    Reid sets the agenda for the Senate, he is the Senate leader and it is his job to do so.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you are correct, and that is exactly what the Republicans have done.

    they have turned the Constitution into tiolet paper. They have turned the Senate into an off-off-Broadway show. A very bad one.
    How?

    You Lefties are blaming all this on Repubs...when was the confirmation hearing scheduled? When was it voted on? When did the Repubs actually filibuster the confirmation?

    Here is a hint...no confirmation hearing has been scheduled, no vote ever took place and no Repubs have filibustered.

    This whole situation is made up and the lemmings on BOTH sides are fighting tooth and nail over it.

    Obama abused his powers and his lemming supporters are making up every excuse in the world to defend it. Just as the Repub lemmings supported it when Bush did it.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    oh, so you expect the Democrats to filibuster every single bill the GOP tries to make law?

    you expect the Democrats to filibuster every judicial nominee?

    you expect the Democrats to make believe they are in session when they are really off for the winter, in order to prevent an entire Federal agency from functioning?
    Again, the Republicans cant put the Senate back in session, only Reid can.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, they have shown their utmost disrespect towards the Senate & democracy.

    don't have enough votes to pass a bill? that's ok, all you have to do is abuse the filibuster rule & make believe you're in session when you're really on vacation, thereby peventing Recess appointment and keeping an entire federal agency from functioning.

    real patriotic stuff.
    You keep touting that the Repubs are filibustering the confirmation...please show us how? They cant filibuster neither a vote or hearing has been scheduled.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    You keep touting that the Repubs are filibustering the confirmation...please show us how? They cant filibuster neither a vote or hearing has been scheduled.
    a vote on his appointment was filibustered on Dec. 8th.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The rules are in section 1066 of the law. You dont get to rewrite the pertinent sections of the law. Congress has to do that. Keep in mind this is a left leaning source, which is why I chose it. http://news.wolterskluwerlb.com/medi...efing08-11.pdf



    I thought Id toss this in as well : The Dodd-Frank Act



    WTF am I talking about? The dang law. I dont know wtf you are talking about though.
    Excellent post OC. And this is why Obama knows the moment that ANY regulation, or rule passed on now by this board, will find itself in court so fast, heads will spin...I wonder why Obama would not want a board to help the people to actually work?....Oh yeah, It's all BS for his re election campaign.

    This is real Chicago political thuggery. Any cost, even our constitutional stability, as long as the end in their minds, justify the action.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    ...You Lefties are blaming all this on Repubs...when was the confirmation hearing scheduled? When was it voted on? When did the Repubs actually filibuster the confirmation?

    Here is a hint...no confirmation hearing has been scheduled, no vote ever took place and no Repubs have filibustered.

    This whole situation is made up and the lemmings on BOTH sides are fighting tooth and nail over it.

    Obama abused his powers and his lemming supporters are making up every excuse in the world to defend it. Just as the Repub lemmings supported it when Bush did it.
    the appointment was filibustered on Dec. 8th.

    on January 4th, neither the House nor Senate were in session, making Obama's recess appointments perfectly legal.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the appointment was filibustered on Dec. 8th.

    on January 4th, neither the House nor Senate were in session, making Obama's recess appointments perfectly legal.

    You keep repeating a fundamental question here, and it has been posted for quite some time now by not only myself, but others as well. I am going to give you ONE last chance....

    According to Article 1 Section 5 of the United States Constitution, Neither house can adjourn for recess without the consent of the other. Now, if you are so darned confident that the Senate was adjourned to recess on January 4th, 2012, then I am sure you can show us the consent of the house for them to do so, and the actual gavel minutes adjourning? Without that you are talking out of your ass.

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