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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Article 2 Section 4.

    Ok, thank you. But how does this apply to a czar that was never confirmed....?

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, thank you. But how does this apply to a czar that was never confirmed....?

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    he can be impeached. that means he is not above the judgement of Congress.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

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    he can be impeached. that means he is not above the judgement of Congress.

    No, he is a czar, and doesn't answer to congress. Therefore, they can't touch him...Nice try though.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, he is a czar, and doesn't answer to congress. Therefore, they can't touch him...Nice try though.

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    lololol!!!!!

    you are wrong. very, very wrong. he can be impeached by Congress. ALL Federal officers can be impeached by Congress.

    this guy is not "above the law" or even "above Congress", as you and the FauxNews propagandists are arguing.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    lololol!!!!!

    you are wrong. very, very wrong. he can be impeached by Congress. ALL Federal officers can be impeached by Congress.

    this guy is not "above the law" or even "above Congress", as you and the FauxNews propagandists are arguing.

    Ok, I am done with you....You don't even know what the hell you are talking about...

    Try again when you get a clue.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, he is a czar, and doesn't answer to congress. Therefore, they can't touch him...Nice try though.

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    I believe that the Law does provide that he/she can be Impeached. Any appointed Federal Civil Employee can be Impeached, if the Law does not already allow for them to be fired. However, as I have noted with links to the Progressive, the threshold for Impeachment and removal is 2/3rds of the Senate. It is therefore not ever seen as an oversight mechanism, but rather as nearer to a criminal prosecution. That it has only been even tried about two dozen times in our history makes it a pathetic excuse by the uninformed as an "oversight tool".

    We are near to arguing with idiots here, and you know how that looks

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, I am done with you....You don't even know what the hell you are talking about...

    Try again when you get a clue.

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    this, from the guy who doesn't think directors of Federal agencies can be impeached.

    lololol!!!!!


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Yes, and I'm kind of surprised at that. Refusal to confirm anyone at all is a purely partisan position the GOP has taken. You usually don't stand up for stupid partisan maneuvers.
    <rolls eyes>

    You really have the partisan goggles on for this one. Am not (stupidly) standing up for anything of the such.

    No. Am looking at the whole picture and there is politics being played heartily on both sides of the aisle. Obama and crew have just played a large partisan maneuver which was brilliant, but sort of suspect he (Obama) will get overturned by the courts. Either way Obama is going to likely come out of this smelling like a rose. The structure of this new consumer bureau does have some genuinely questionable elements, but the partisan blind see nothing but "Our team versus Their team'.

    This whole event/issue is a great example of just how ****ed up this country has become. And day by day it is only getting worse.


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    <rolls eyes>

    You really have the partisan goggles on for this one. Am not (stupidly) standing up for anything of the such.

    No. Am looking at the whole picture and there is politics being played heartily on both sides of the aisle. Obama and crew have just played a large partisan maneuver which was brilliant, but sort of suspect he (Obama) will get overturned by the courts. Either way Obama is going to likely come out of this smelling like a rose. The structure of this new consumer bureau does have some genuinely questionable elements, but the partisan blind see nothing but "Our team versus Their team'.

    This whole event/issue is a great example of just how ****ed up this country has become. And day by day it is only getting worse.
    With regard to short term politics, it is a good move. But "brilliant" ....... it only gets traction to the extent that leading Republicans make it an election issue. There is so much on the plate already, the GOP would be as stupid to make this a premier issue, thus detracting from the more obvous, and resonating, Obama failures.

    We are having fun with this here, but otherwise look for it to be back-burner. Obama may trot it out, but again, who will care ? It doesn't help anyone pay a bill.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Impeachment is not oversight. You know darn good and well what oversight is. You also know what the ability to control regulatory overreach is. This agency lacks that in many respects. There are good reasons to object to it.

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