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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Actually, i'm not pissed about anything. Am a little curious how some on the Left are so consumed in partisanship that they can't even conceive there are two sides to this issue. And certainly politics is involved. But it (politics) is and has been getting played on both sides of the aisle....
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Yes. It is relevant. And from what I have read the GOP is not trying to "kill the agency". Thought the Hatch write up did a nice job of laying out some details.
    No, it's not relevant. Because having ideological or philosophical differences with the creation of a lawfully created body is not a reason to refuse to confirm anyone to the post heading up the agency. Their constitutional job is to advise and consent, not refuse to do their job.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No, it's not relevant. Because having ideological or philosophical differences with the creation of a lawfully created body is not a reason to refuse to confirm anyone to the post heading up the agency. Their constitutional job is to advise and consent, not refuse to do their job.
    Guess our opinions just differ....


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No, it's not relevant. Because having ideological or philosophical differences with the creation of a lawfully created body is not a reason to refuse to confirm anyone to the post heading up the agency. Their constitutional job is to advise and consent, not refuse to do their job.
    indeed, refusing to allow ANYONE to run this new agency, is not why the Senate has filibuster powers.

    if they don't like the agency, then vote it out or defund it...or amend it.

    that is the only democratic way of dealing with this issue.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    oh, and btw, the agency is not "unaccountable", as the agency director can be impeached and the agency defunded if they **** up or fail to do a good job.
    Again, you really don't read anything that doesn't agree with your opinion do you?

    The CFPB is not funded by congress, it is funded by the Fed. and the oversight committees do not have oversight...So I don't know where you get your info from, if anywhere, but it is wrong.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No, it's not relevant. Because having ideological or philosophical differences with the creation of a lawfully created body is not a reason to refuse to confirm anyone to the post heading up the agency. Their constitutional job is to advise and consent, not refuse to do their job.

    I wonder if you felt this way, and I know this is on the state level but, did you feel this way concerning WI?


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wonder if you felt this way, and I know this is on the state level but, did you feel this way concerning WI?


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Again, you really don't read anything that doesn't agree with your opinion do you?

    The CFPB is not funded by congress, it is funded by the Fed. and the oversight committees do not have oversight...So I don't know where you get your info from, if anywhere, but it is wrong.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Guess our opinions just differ....
    Yes, and I'm kind of surprised at that. Refusal to confirm anyone at all is a purely partisan position the GOP has taken. You usually don't stand up for stupid partisan maneuvers.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    indeed, refusing to allow ANYONE to run this new agency, is not why the Senate has filibuster powers.

    if they don't like the agency, then vote it out or defund it...or amend it.

    that is the only democratic way of dealing with this issue.

    Yup. They lost the debate, and lost the vote, and now are going to bat for Wall Street, dirty-style.
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