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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    According to the republicans in congress. So that is not "period". Nice try though.
    Ummm....no prior precedence makes it pretty much "period." The Senate was IN SESSION in accordance with their rules which they draft in accordance with the Constitution. I get that that document isn't very important to this Admin or its more ardent followers.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Funny how Bush was never demanded to be shown the door by Republicans, and he made 171 recess appointments.
    Yes, as have many Presidents. There is a time when Recess appointments are valid, and fullly in compliance with both the law, and intent, of the Founders.

    The point is, the Senate is not now in "Recess". Obama made a deliberate choice ot not work with teh Senate when he could. So the Senate chose to not be in Recess. And the specific law that created this job said that the Director must be approved by the Senate.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Ummm....no prior precedence makes it pretty much "period." The Senate was IN SESSION in accordance with their rules which they draft in accordance with the Constitution. I get that that document isn't very important to this Admin or its more ardent followers.
    Did you miss the example given in the source?
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Bush makes recess appointments, no problem. Obama makes recess appointments, it's a constitutional crisis. For gods sake people, whether something is right or wrong is not determined by who did it.
    Did Bush make a recess appointment while the democrats were gaveling in and out of session, as was the case here? I don't recall that. In fact, I recall democrats gavelingin and out of session in order to prevent Bush from making recess appointments.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The Senate has followed the proper protocols. Protocols that Obama's own Justice Department argued for. These protocols compel a President to act with the advice and consent of Congress. Such advice and consent Obama has shunned. Now Obama has taken a further unprecedented step to take power from the Legislative. The community organizer needs to be shown the door.
    Good for Obama, it's about time he got some balls. Let the GOP fight him in an election year. Bring it on!!


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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your source. It is quite clear there are two sides to the story.
    The "source" does not argue that the Senate is in Recess, with "argue" being the actionable word. I just wanted to make the point that the article presents the facts, to include the positions of each side, and is not as an editorial. I have no problem with disagreeing with any post or opinion, pro or con, but felt your words gave a false impression to those who might not have read the article.

    It is a very good argument too. Either way. My disappointment is that Obama has chosen politics again, at the expense of the country. The SOB hasn't one ounce of the leadership abilities of any recent President. As I noted earlier, agree or disagree with their politics, but Reagan and Clinton did work within the framework, and within political differences, and advanced the best interests of the country in partnership with the opposition.

    Not Obama.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Good for Obama, it's about time he got some balls. Let the GOP fight him in an election year. Bring it on!!
    I agree. This action took balls, balls that Obama has failed to show in 3 years.

    Bout' time he showed some balls. Let's hope this is the new Obama.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    ...My disappointment is that Obama has chosen politics again, at the expense of the country.....
    are you ****ing kidding me????

    the GOP in Congress has admitted to filibustering every God-damned bill proposed or supported by Obama, for the simple purpose of winning the 2012 election and you are complaining about Obama choosing politics????

    give me a break!!

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Good for Obama, it's about time he got some balls. Let the GOP fight him in an election year. Bring it on!!
    Trouble is, his "balls" are between his ears. In many parts, we just call that being stupid. Or arrogant. They are close cousins.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    are you ****ing kidding me????

    the GOP in Congress has admitted to filibustering every God-damned bill proposed or supported by Obama, for the simple purpose of winning the 2012 election and you are complaining about Obama choosing politics????

    give me a break!!
    Link it "Progressive". Otherwise, I am calling your bluff. Many bills have passed this year.

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