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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I don't think it's a big deal....but I do think it's entirely political. I think he wants that new department in the news. He wants the Republicans to be angry that he's appointed someone to head a department that protects consumers. I think it's an easy way to try to portray Republicans as the protector of banks and him as looking out for the little guy.

    He also picked someone that's very respectable. He didn't pick a bomb thrower like Warren.
    So you give no credence at all to the Occam's Razor hypothesis that the main purpose of making the appointment was to finally put someone in charge of the Consumer Protection Bureau? How sad that we've all become so jaded.
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    Re: Obama defies Congress with ‘recess’ picks

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    They can filabuster the vote and delay it, but they can not stop it. All Harry Reid has to do is call the vote, the Repubs can only hold the floor for so long until the vote comes up.
    If that's what the Dems want to do. But in practical terms, they know you can't run a Senate by constantly running up against filibusters, so they do endless cloture votes instead. They would only knowingly push a filibuster for a really important issue to them.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I was gonna like your post until you called Liz a bomb thrower .

    Elizabeth Warren is simply awesome.
    Ironically, the Republicans' Jihad against Warren is going to bite them on the butt when she takes Scott Brown's Senate seat.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I was gonna like your post until you called Liz a bomb thrower .

    Elizabeth Warren is simply awesome.
    Warrens says lots of reasonable, rational, smart things calling for making the lives of average Americans better and stuff like that.

    To them, that's throwing bombs.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I was gonna like your post until you called Liz a bomb thrower .

    Elizabeth Warren is simply awesome.
    Hehe, I'm a big fan of Warren as well.
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    Re: Obama defies Congress with ‘recess’ picks

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, it was real. He just snuck it in. A filibuster is allowed under the rules, it's just that nobody bothers any more, and nobody bothers to give anyone the opportunity either (they just do cloture votes).

    It was 8 1/2 hours.

    I remember it - it was epic ... and awesome. But it wasn't 'technically' a filibuster, even though it's the only real filibuster we've seen in decades. I can't remember the arcane explanations for why - I'll try to find something on it in a bit.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I don't think it's a big deal....but I do think it's entirely political. I think he wants that new department in the news. He wants the Republicans to be angry that he's appointed someone to head a department that protects consumers. I think it's an easy way to try to portray Republicans as the protector of banks and him as looking out for the little guy.
    Well, no, he just wanted the damn agency to finally have someone in charge of it instead of waiting on the idiotic Senate to do its job.
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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Ironically, the Republicans' Jihad against Warren is going to bite them on the butt when she takes Scott Brown's Senate seat.
    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Warrens says lots of reasonable, rational, smart things calling for making the lives of average Americans better and stuff like that.

    To them, that's throwing bombs.

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    Re: Obama Defies Congress With ‘Recess’ Picks. Could Provoke Constitutional Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Warrens says lots of reasonable, rational, smart things calling for making the lives of average Americans better and stuff like that.

    To them, that's throwing bombs.
    to me, she is one of those rare individuals who is able to take a complex subject and present it so that it becomes easy to understand

    those who oppose her i believe are those who do not want the public to hear the truths she has to offer
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    Re: Obama defies Congress with ‘recess’ picks

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I remember it - it was epic ... and awesome. But it wasn't 'technically' a filibuster, even though it's the only real filibuster we've seen in decades. I can't remember the arcane explanations for why - I'll try to find something on it in a bit.
    I'd be interested in that. (I might be the only one who is!) Let me know what you find please.

    I remember D'Amato going at it for the typewriter makers or whatever back in 92.
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