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    Re: ACLU, Others Slam Obama for Signing Defense Bill That Includes Detainee Provision

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    Just keep ignoring evidence if it floats your boat.
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    Re: ACLU, Others Slam Obama for Signing Defense Bill That Includes Detainee Provision

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    Re: ACLU, Others Slam Obama for Signing Defense Bill That Includes Detainee Provision

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    So do all of the current Democratic Presidents.
    Since all the viable candidates for president support the Patriot Act, it will be up to Congress to end it.

    Here was the last vote in Congress to end the Patriot Act, in May, 2011:

    The 13 Democrats who voted to halt reauthorization of the Patriot Act
    Senator Max Baucus
    Senator Mark Begich
    Senator Jeff Bingaman
    Senator Sherrod Brown
    Senator Maria Cantwell
    Senator Benjamin Cardin
    Senator Patrick Leahy
    Senator Jeff Merkley
    Senator Jeanne Shaheen
    Senator Jon Tester
    Senator Mark Udall
    Senator Tom Udall
    Senator Ron Wyden

    The 4 Republicans who voted to halt reauthorization of the Patriot Act
    Senator Dean Heller
    Senator Mike Lee
    Senator Lisa Murkowski
    Senator Rand Paul

    And props also go out to the 1 Independent voting against the Patriot Act, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

    (Source: Roll Call 081 in the U.S. Senate, May 26 2011 at 10:00 AM)


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    Re: ACLU, Others Slam Obama for Signing Defense Bill That Includes Detainee Provision

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    do tell us, how many Democratic Presidents we currently have?
    Just the one. You could have googled that.
    "Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
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    Re: ACLU, Others Slam Obama for Signing Defense Bill That Includes Detainee Provision

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Since all the viable candidates for president support the Patriot Act, it will be up to Congress to end it.
    Most of the PATRIOT Act was pretty tame stuff. There were a few really awful parts, but you can just remove those and not have to stop the whole thing. And some of those things were fixed in the reauthorization, though not all.
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