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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    let's see the point you were feebly trying to make within the OP:

    notice that it was YOU who was making the comparison between the results of the Obama administration and the dicknbush regime
    problem - at least for you - is that the cite you provided documented for anyone who can do basic math that the Obama administration is actually doing a better job ferreting out undesirable prospective immigrants than its predecessor regime accomplished
    proving the exact opposite of what your OP intended
    thanks again for the laugh
    The only thing feeble here is you trying to make points with us about Bush. Every conservative on this board complained about how Bush didn't do enough at the border all through his administration. So comparing Obama to Bush buys you nothing around here.
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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The only thing feeble here is you trying to make points with us about Bush. Every conservative on this board complained about how Bush didn't do enough at the border all through his administration. So comparing Obama to Bush buys you nothing around here.

    whatever it bought it documented how the premise stated within the OP was stupid
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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Is there any kind of ceiling on immigration? I mean for how long will we let people in before we have too many poor aliens to take care of? Perhaps a responsible admittance would be logical...you can come in to live if you have enough savings to float you for 6 months, otherwise, sorry. hard nosed...sure, but we are currently supporting way too many aliens here, and I mean supporting.

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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Is there any kind of ceiling on immigration? I mean for how long will we let people in before we have too many poor aliens to take care of? Perhaps a responsible admittance would be logical...you can come in to live if you have enough savings to float you for 6 months, otherwise, sorry. hard nosed...sure, but we are currently supporting way too many aliens here, and I mean supporting.
    switzerland will allow you to immigrate if you are able to document ownership of at least one million dollars (cash) net worth
    is that the standard you are seeking to emulate?

    would make the INS decision making much easier
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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what i would say is the facts indicate the Obama administration is actually approving a smaller percentage of applicants than was true of its predecessor regime
    that would indicate to me (who believes 90% is more than 86%) that the Obama administration is being MORE restrictive than the political appointees enforcing immigration laws during the dicknbush regime

    now, it may be a valid argument that that the Obama administration is not yet being sufficiently restrictive/thorough ... but the reality is that the OP's premise that the Obama administration is being more lax than before in the processing of these immigration applications is patently untrue
    If one assumes the pool of applicants has been of consistent quality with regard to admissibility issues, then perhaps you are correct.

    This cannot be assumed, however.

    Furthermore, no data is provided for the tenure of the new director whose motto is, allegedly, "get to yes" other than a two month period at the beginning of his appointment in August 2009 that is included in the October 2008 - October 2009 data set. Once cannot use that figure as an assessment of how many refusals were issued between then and December 2011 (and how that figure relates to past trends) when this story was published.

    That said, I question the thoroughness of this article because it repeatedly talks about immigrant visas being rubber-stamped and then quotes an immigration attorney who gripes about the speed of approval for business visas, which are non-immigrant (visitor) visas. I don't know who didn't know what they were talking about, but I suspect it was the reporter being sloppy and meaning all visa types were subject to this alleged pressure to approve, not just immigrant visas.

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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Is there any kind of ceiling on immigration? I mean for how long will we let people in before we have too many poor aliens to take care of? Perhaps a responsible admittance would be logical...you can come in to live if you have enough savings to float you for 6 months, otherwise, sorry. hard nosed...sure, but we are currently supporting way too many aliens here, and I mean supporting.
    Immigrants must be sponsored by a closely-related US citizen or lawful permanent resident, or US employer (except diversity visas). In all three of these types of immigrant visas, an affidavit of support by the petitioner is required to show they can support the benificiary if required, and is legally responsible for them financially for a period of at least five years. Diversity visas are more lax but still require proof by the applicant that they can work when they immigrate.

    There is a ceiling on the number of immigrants annually. These numerical limits are applied to countries of origin individually, so the wait time for benificiaries immigrating from Mexico or the Philippines can be more than a decade (depending on the status of the petitioner and their relationship to the benificiary), while a Swiss citizen receives an immigrant visa much faster.
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    Re: Probe reveals feds pressuring agents to rush immigrant visas even if fraud is fe

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    switzerland will allow you to immigrate if you are able to document ownership of at least one million dollars (cash) net worth
    is that the standard you are seeking to emulate?

    would make the INS decision making much easier
    We already have provisions for such a case. The fifth preference category of employment-based immigrant visas involves investing in a US company at least half a million dollars and creating at least ten full-time jobs in the US.

    So, if you get yourself $500,000 and an investment opportunity, you too can become a permanent resident in the United States.

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