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Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

Grant said:
The Mosque was one of five places firebombed, including a Hindu center. They have a suspect who admitted the crime in custody.

Let's not make this another long whine about "Ïslamophobia".
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Yeah, I ended there.
 
apdst said:
Yeah! Sure!
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I'm not a Muslim but I've been in a mosque. Everyone was quite friendly. You should try it some time.
 
apdst said:
You're a Muslim? If not, then I think you're telling a story, because Muslims don't allow, "infidels", in a mosque.
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What a complete crock of ****. I've been to a mosque. Many mosques have open house days where they welcome non-Muslims to come visit (for exactly this reason).

What other lies do you believe? You also believe that jews drink the blood of babies and stuff?
 
VanceMack said:
Why does one have to take a side? Seems to me from a 'right wing' perspective, they couldnt give a **** less and would be pleased to see them tear each other apart. The difficulty would be from a left wingers perspective...hell...who do you support in THIS mess??? I mean...as long as you are making this a 'wing' thing...
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Hey, don't blame me. Lots of righties like to hate both groups, and now they're in a bind. Not my problem.
 
digsbe said:
China is not known for their religious tolerance or respect for faith. The state ideology is atheism and to be a member of the communist party you must be an atheist. They attack Christians, Muslims and other faiths (with a pass on Buddhism to some degree due to cultural influences). I think the Chinese government views religion as a competitor for power and thus tramples on human rights.
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There has been NO pass on Buddhism. What gives you that idea? I would recommend you consider the history of Tibet.
 
Grant said:
The Mosque was one of five places firebombed, including a Hindu center. They have a suspect who admitted the crime in custody.

Let's not make this another long whine about "Ïslamophobia".
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They did already? Who was it...some white separatist bent on destroying Muslims? I heard Bloomberg already site this as a hate crime...
 
misterman said:
What a complete crock of ****. I've been to a mosque. Many mosques have open house days where they welcome non-Muslims to come visit (for exactly this reason).

What other lies do you believe? You also believe that jews drink the blood of babies and stuff?
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You should never try to provide someone with truth and logic when they have a good hate going. If you start challenging people's inexperience and willful ignorance you are only going to mess up their preconceived opinions and make them mad. You HAVE TO be wrong so that they can be right.
 
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VanceMack said:
They did already? Who was it...some white separatist bent on destroying Muslims? I heard Bloomberg already site this as a hate crime...
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Dude charged was black. He cited personal grievances in all cases, the Hindu attack apparently a matter of confusion over who previously lived there 'cos they pointed out to the police he stole a frappacino presumably from the conveniance store he also firebombed. Investigators claim he made anti-Muslim statements in the course of the interview though, so the mosque attack is being treated as a hate crime and the others are regular arson offences.

Seems pretty weak as a comparison to the OP.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
There has been NO pass on Buddhism. What gives you that idea? I would recommend you consider the history of Tibet.
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China persecutes Buddhism quite actively, especially Buddhist monks who are Tibetan and more likely to incite revolt.
I think digs may have been meaning Confucianism, but then again, it's more of an ideology than a religion
 
RDS said:
I travel to Malaysia often. They are our neighbour. They are a muslim country and quite moderate but 2 of the states practice Shariah Law and they are a progressive nation.
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Malaysia is progressive? You mean a state where it is illegal to convert out of Islam and prohibited Christians from using the Malay word for God in its publications is moderate and progressive? Interesting...
 
digsbe said:
China is not known for their religious tolerance or respect for faith. The state ideology is atheism and to be a member of the communist party you must be an atheist. They attack Christians, Muslims and other faiths (with a pass on Buddhism to some degree due to cultural influences). I think the Chinese government views religion as a competitor for power and thus tramples on human rights.
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Depends on the Buddhist group in question... get too organized and they crack down on you...
 
ludahai said:
Malaysia is progressive? You mean a state where it is illegal to convert out of Islam and prohibited Christians from using the Malay word for God in its publications is moderate and progressive? Interesting...
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I know abt that. This is sensitive topic and emotions run high.
 
TheNextEra said:
Yes, they do. You will have to ask ahead of time for an invite. You have no idea what you are talking about. Muslims are generally quite open to inviting others to see. Let me guess, you haven't tried have you?
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That was my experience in America, but not in other countries.
 
RDS said:
I know abt that. This is sensitive topic and emotions run high.
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Not telling the truth doesn't help the situation either but many like yourself seem to feel that we can pretend our way
out of these problems.
 
Grant said:
Not telling the truth doesn't help the situation either but many like yourself seem to feel that we can pretend our way
out of these problems.
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Respect your opinion. Try living in a country where you are one of the 10% minority and the other 90% are muslims.
 
Blue_State said:
That was my experience in America, but not in other countries.
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There are other countries in which the Muslims do allow it as well. Not all mind you of course, but apdst claimed that a non-Muslim cannot enter in a Mosque which is simply untrue. That is what I am mainly responding to.
 
RDS said:
Respect your opinion. Try living in a country where you are one of the 10% minority and the other 90% are muslims.
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The difference in numbers doesnt have to be that great before the problems begin,

We're already aware, or should be, of what Muslims in the Middle East are doing to Christians and Jews so it is not a surprise that they will carry on their Islamification in other countries (such as Nigeria) as well.

It is better to listen to what the Islamic leaders themselves are saying rather than making false claims about them being "moderate" or "progressive".
 
Grant said:
It is better to listen to what the Islamic leaders themselves are saying rather than making false claims about them being "moderate" or "progressive".
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And what Mosques have you been in to hear for yourself what the Islamic leaders are saying? Or do you just get sound bytes and make judgements from those?
 
TheNextEra said:
And what Mosques have you been in to hear for yourself what the Islamic leaders are saying? Or do you just get sound bytes and make judgements from those?
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I get sound bytes and make judgments from those.
 
misterman said:
Hey, don't blame me. Lots of righties like to hate both groups, and now they're in a bind. Not my problem.
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but we kinda HAVE to blame you since you were the one that insisted on making this a wing thing...or was that some other idiot logging in under your name? I know a few others have that problem...you should probably change your password.

I would think conservatives would just sit back and watch the show, while many kneejerk liberals will have a real difficult time figuring out which side to trip over themselves to defend them...geeez...what is a kneejerk liberal left winger to do...support the...how did you (I mean that 'other' idiot that posted under your name) put it...oh yeah...mooooslems...or support communists...what to do...what to do...
 
Grant said:
The difference in numbers doesnt have to be that great before the problems begin,

We're already aware, or should be, of what Muslims in the Middle East are doing to Christians and Jews so it is not a surprise that they will carry on their Islamification in other countries (such as Nigeria) as well.

It is better to listen to what the Islamic leaders themselves are saying rather than making false claims about them being "moderate" or "progressive".
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In Singapore we can't talk anything bad about race or religion cuz can be charged under the Sedition Act.
 
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