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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sure, and that's great.

    We just have to remember that it's counterproductive to that goal to attack all Muslims for the crimes of some. Some critics do that way too often. Muslims are often the victims of these illiberal acts too, and plenty more oppose them.
    You mean that not all Muslims are terrorists?

    So your point is that some Muslims are terrorists, some would want to spread their religion a bit too aggressively, would censor media, honour kill, treat women like second class citizens, cheer at the public hanging of Gays, call for the murder of Christians and Jews, and so on?

    It's probably safe to assume that those are the Muslims people would be referring to.

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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It was directed at your comment, in view of all.
    But it had nothing to do with my comment.

    Are you quite certain you're even on the right thread?

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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But it had nothing to do with my comment.
    Your comment was:

    It is better to listen to what the Islamic leaders themselves are saying rather than making false claims about them being "moderate" or "progressive".
    You were lumping all Muslims together. As usual.
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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You mean that not all Muslims are terrorists?

    So your point is that some Muslims are terrorists, some would want to spread their religion a bit too aggressively, would censor media, honour kill, treat women like second class citizens, cheer at the public hanging of Gays, call for the murder of Christians and Jews, and so on?

    It's probably safe to assume that those are the Muslims people would be referring to.
    No, it's not safe to say that. Plenty of people don't say it that way, and many actually mean all Muslims.
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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The 'liberals'' have come to stand for nothing but fear and appeasement.
    You're doing it again.
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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    I know abt that. This is sensitive topic and emotions run high.
    Sure they are. Singapore was essentially KICKED out of the Malaysian Federation because it was too Chinese according to the Malaysian Tunku...
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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    That was my experience in America, but not in other countries.
    My experience in China, Taiwan, and Indonesia have always been rather positive. I have been invited into mosques (but with the exception of the one in China, never entered one) and had really good conversations -- including along comparative religion lines between Islam and Catholicism -- with many Islamic teachers...
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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Respect your opinion. Try living in a country where you are one of the 10% minority and the other 90% are muslims.
    Are you from Indonesia???
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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Sure they are. Singapore was essentially KICKED out of the Malaysian Federation because it was too Chinese according to the Malaysian Tunku...
    That's the name of the game - politics and dirty politics everywhere.

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    Re: Muslims clash with China police who destroyed mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    My experience in China, Taiwan, and Indonesia have always been rather positive. I have been invited into mosques (but with the exception of the one in China, never entered one) and had really good conversations -- including along comparative religion lines between Islam and Catholicism -- with many Islamic teachers...
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