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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    I know that fire departments and other emergency responders are scrambling with training and specialized equipment purchases so they can deal with hybrid vehicle fires.
    I think you made that up, since in the ten years that hybrids have been on the road in the US there are NO cases of hybrid related vehicle fires on the road.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    It isn't.

    But it's being blown all out of proportion by the flat earth types. They suck up oil industry propoganda about global warming, and the allegedly impracticality of altermative technologies. They use this as an excuse to fight ANY policy or investment that doesn't involve continued dependence on fossil fuel. And in so doing, they work toward big oil and big coal's agenda.

    The United States consumes 25% of the world's energy. That's a big market for the fossil fuel industry. The last thing they want is competition.
    Good thing over 60% of the world's lithium is in US-friendly China.

    Additionally, over 60% of the energy you would use to charge those batteries would be generated through fossil fuels.

    I would also like to see how the grid holds up when you add this additional electrical consumption.

    The correct solution should be to amass as much fossil fuels in the present, expand the current production of nuclear power plants and renewable power plants, while investing in long-term, environment safe batteries. When the time comes to cut fossil fuels, the next-gen storage technology will be ready while our long term power generation needs will be met.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Bad investment after bad investment from this administration.
    I thought that the idea of investment is that there's the possibility of risk involved as well as the possibility of reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Maybe if they would stop making loan guarantees to their friends and campaign contributors and stop wasting our tax dollars on stupid crap we might not be in the situation we are still in.
    Maybe if the government as a whole didn't essentially demand what amounts to bribery in order to be heard...
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post

    The correct solution should be to amass as much fossil fuels in the present, expand the current production of nuclear power plants and renewable power plants, while investing in long-term, environment safe batteries. When the time comes to cut fossil fuels, the next-gen storage technology will be ready while our long term power generation needs will be met.
    This is pretty much what is happening right now. Fossil fuels cannot be cut this instant. We still need them badly. But in order to be in position to cut fossil fuels, alternative energy needs to be started up now, because it will take a long time to where alternative energies can replace fossil fuels. Electric Vehicles (EVs) are yet another step in this process. People need to stop trying to kill alternative energies and EVs using lame excuses. Complaining about that Fisker is an example of this. The cars are being recalled because of hose clamps not because the electric car technology is bad. But people are trying use this as an excuse to kill the idea of EVs.

    The technology of EVs is new and it will have growing pains, but it's important that we overcome these hurdles now. Eventually the price of oil will become unbearable and we will need to change immediately. This is inevitable. It's better to overcome hurdles now, when we time, and stop complaining about them rather than when we don't have time for hurdles.
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    It isn't.

    But it's being blown all out of proportion by the flat earth types. They suck up oil industry propoganda about global warming, and the allegedly impracticality of altermative technologies. They use this as an excuse to fight ANY policy or investment that doesn't involve continued dependence on fossil fuel. And in so doing, they work toward big oil and big coal's agenda.

    The United States consumes 25% of the world's energy. That's a big market for the fossil fuel industry. The last thing they want is competition.
    I dont know anyone opposed to alternative fuels, be it solar, wind, hybrid etc...Why is it that if you arent 100% in favor of over priced, under performing alternative fuels that you are 100% against them? Why is it an all or nothing proposition?


    Secondly...where do you think the power comes from to plug in / power these electric cars? Fossil fuel burning power generating plants. Granted we do have some nuclear and hydro-electric power stations.... PROVEN alternative energy sources...but the damn tree hugging environmentalist types fight tooth and nail to stop any more from being put up, a pretty powerful Washington lobby group those tree huggers...they are pushing the solar and wind power.
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I thought that the idea of investment is that there's the possibility of risk involved as well as the possibility of reward.
    It is, but you have to get one right once and a while. Either this administration is inept and doesnt know what it is doing or it is stupid and cant figure it out.


    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Maybe if the government as a whole didn't essentially demand what amounts to bribery in order to be heard...
    True, maybe if they would spend more time paying attention to the Constitution and their limited powers rather than the second they get elected starting to plan for their re-election campaign.
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    This is pretty much what is happening right now. Fossil fuels cannot be cut this instant. We still need them badly. But in order to be in position to cut fossil fuels, alternative energy needs to be started up now, because it will take a long time to where alternative energies can replace fossil fuels. Electric Vehicles (EVs) are yet another step in this process. People need to stop trying to kill alternative energies and EVs using lame excuses. Complaining about that Fisker is an example of this. The cars are being recalled because of hose clamps not because the electric car technology is bad. But people are trying use this as an excuse to kill the idea of EVs.

    The technology of EVs is new and it will have growing pains, but it's important that we overcome these hurdles now. Eventually the price of oil will become unbearable and we will need to change immediately. This is inevitable. It's better to overcome hurdles now, when we time, and stop complaining about them rather than when we don't have time for hurdles.
    We have viable, proven, reliable alternative power now. Nuclear and Hydro-electric.

    Its just that the environmentalist wakko extremists fight tooth and nail to stop any more from being built. We might displace a mouse or something.
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    We have viable, proven, reliable alternative power now. Nuclear and Hydro-electric.

    Its just that the environmentalist wakko extremists fight tooth and nail to stop any more from being built. We might displace a mouse or something.
    Are you driving a nuclear or hydro-electric car? FYI, not all environmentalists oppose nuclear power.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    It is, but you have to get one right once and a while. Either this administration is inept and doesnt know what it is doing or it is stupid and cant figure it out.
    Or we're only being told about the failures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    True, maybe if they would spend more time paying attention to the Constitution and their limited powers rather than the second they get elected starting to plan for their re-election campaign.
    That's got a whole lot more to do with the importance of money in politics than it does about the Constitution. If you took the money out of politics they wouldn't have to engage in near-constant runs for office, but they'd still abuse their power.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    We have viable, proven, reliable alternative power now. Nuclear and Hydro-electric.

    Its just that the environmentalist wakko extremists fight tooth and nail to stop any more from being built. We might displace a mouse or something.
    We certainly do need a lot more nuclear. If you look closely, I think you'll find environmentalists are changing their tune on it. Advances in nuclear technology have made it much safer and waste disposal for more environmentally friendly. So they're much more open to it now than they were in the past.

    Wind and Solar are also PROVEN technologies. Plants are producing electricity right now.

    Renewable energy in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    As of the third quarter of 2011, the cumulative installed capacity of wind power in the United States was 43,461 megawatts (MW)
    Solar power in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The largest and oldest solar power plant in the world is the 354 MW SEGS thermal power plant, in California.[12] The 64 MW Nevada Solar One uses parabolic trough technology in one of the largest solar plants in the world.

    The Martin Next Generation Solar Energy Center is a hybrid 75-megawatt (MW) parabolic trough solar energy plant which is owned by Florida Power & Light Company (FPL).
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