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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard


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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Is that a pure guess, or have you actually done the numbers?
    Just logic and observation

    If you have 4 million combustion vehicles made and 1 million recalled you have a 25% recall rate
    If you have 239 vehicles made and recall 239 vehicles recalled you have a 100% recall rate
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    we are having unproven tech pushed on us before it is ready to be released
    Hose clamps are unproven technology?>

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    Hose clamps are unproven technology?>

    Yeah, let's stick with that....Ignore the other hybrid battery fires that have recently come to light....You're right, it is just wonderful....

    Oh, and let's not mention the environmental cost these cars really are either...Just keep looking for unicorns, and rainbows.....

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    If by being opposed to the moon you mean making my current source of energy more and more expensive because you want to replace it with unproven tech. then yes
    That kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the United States did little or nothing to reduce its dependence on imported fossil fuels between 1980 and 2011. The Carter and Obama adminstrations are the only ones to have ever even attempted to do anything about getting us off the oil tit.

    As long as pollution is free, and we do nothing to develop and promote alternatives, we will remain hostage to oil speculators and to rises in demand from other nations. The US is currently the world's largest consumer of fossil fuels, but China is catching up rapidly. Once that happens, it will be Chinese demand the drives the world price, not ours.

    The notion that many conservatives seem to have, that all we have to do is drill more holes in the ground, is simplistic in the extreme. No matter where the oil comes from, it trades on global markets. No oil company is going to sell oil fracked in Pennsylvania for $50 if the market price is $100.

    So, if you want cheap fossil fuel, and you're dumb enough to think that "drill baby drill" is a permanent long term policy, dream on.

    You'll be sitting in a gas line again, sooner or later. It's only a matter of time.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    There are currently over 4 million hybrid vehicles on the road worldwide, and the number is growing at the rate of about 200,000 per year and accelerating as more companies get into the business.

    The Toyota Prius has been on the market for ten years now, and there are two million of them on the road in the US giving reliable, safe service to a very loyal customer base. Why would they be loyal? The best gas milage in the industry. Faultless reliablility and top of the market resale value. There are Pruis cabs in New York with 300,000 miles on their first batteries.

    ..Ignore the other hybrid battery fires that have recently come to light.
    You mean ONE fire issue. And this only occurred in extreme crash testing, and not for several hours after the crash. No Prius or any other hybrid has been cites for such problems

    Oh, and let's not mention the environmental cost these cars really are either...Just keep looking for unicorns, and rainbows.....
    Hybrid technology is an established, proven and cost effective technology. It's being applied to heavy construction equipment and large overhead cranes now.

    I don't know where you get this unicorns and rainbows notion, but you're the one who's behind the times on this.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    If that keystone pipeline gets going, maybe that trade deficit will really start narrowing.
    Far be it for me to reacquaint you with elementary school geography, but importing oil from Canada will not reduce the US trade deficit for a fairly obvious reason!!!!!!!

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    I really don't understand why this is a big deal. It sounds like one isolated problem that can easily be fixed. It's not going to effect many people since few of us can afford a $100,000 car.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    I really don't understand why this is a big deal. It sounds like one isolated problem that can easily be fixed. It's not going to effect many people since few of us can afford a $100,000 car.
    I know that fire departments and other emergency responders are scrambling with training and specialized equipment purchases so they can deal with hybrid vehicle fires.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    It isn't.

    But it's being blown all out of proportion by the flat earth types. They suck up oil industry propoganda about global warming, and the allegedly impracticality of altermative technologies. They use this as an excuse to fight ANY policy or investment that doesn't involve continued dependence on fossil fuel. And in so doing, they work toward big oil and big coal's agenda.

    The United States consumes 25% of the world's energy. That's a big market for the fossil fuel industry. The last thing they want is competition.

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