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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There are hundreds of thousands of hybrids on the roads running without problems.
    Hundreds of thousands 'plug-in hybrids' on the road? Please expound on this.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Hundreds of thousands 'plug-in hybrids' on the road? Please expound on this.
    You already expanded on what I wrote by inserting "plug-in".

    Do you think that battery charging is a new technology?

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You already expanded on what I wrote by inserting "plug-in".

    Do you think that battery charging is a new technology?
    Thank you for that. It was you who made the global statement 'hundreds of thousands of hybrids on the roads running without problems' but the article and subject of the OP is 'plug-in' hybrids. Do you not see this as an apples/oranges comparison? To my knowledge the 'hundreds of thousands' you speak of utilize gasoline somewhat but I could be wrong.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Thank you for that. It was you who made the global statement 'hundreds of thousands of hybrids on the roads running without problems' but the article and subject of the OP is 'plug-in' hybrids. Do you not see this as an apples/oranges comparison? To my knowledge the 'hundreds of thousands' you speak of utilize gasoline somewhat but I could be wrong.
    The Fisker Karma also uses gasoline somewhat -- hence the term "hybrid". The plug-in component simply allows the batteries to be charged from an outlet in addition to being charged from braking and from the gasoline engine. Basically it's the same charging technology that's been used in boats for decades. In this case the recall had to do with an improperly placed hose clamp. Not exactly a cutting edge component.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Actually, they have the old GM plant in Milford, DE, which used to build the Solstace (may it rest in peace). They expect to be building cars there in a year or two. Actually, I was pleased to see that they had sold any cars at all. I do know that there is a dealer in Fairfax, VA.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Thank you for that. It was you who made the global statement 'hundreds of thousands of hybrids on the roads running without problems' but the article and subject of the OP is 'plug-in' hybrids. Do you not see this as an apples/oranges comparison? To my knowledge the 'hundreds of thousands' you speak of utilize gasoline somewhat but I could be wrong.
    Any car that is a "hybrid" uses both gas and electric. Currently, there are over 3 million hybrids sold in the world. 2.0 million in the US as of May 2011.
    Hybrid electric vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    More than 3 million hybrid electric vehicles have been sold around the world by July 2010, led by the United States with almost 1.8 million units,[92] followed by Japan with more than 1 million units[93][94] and Europe with more than 200 thousand.[7][89] By December 2010, the top seller in the U.S. was the Toyota Prius, with cumulative sales of 955,101 units, followed by the Honda Civic Hybrid, with 204,513 vehicles, and the Toyota Camry Hybrid, with 169,564 units. The top selling hybrid in the U.S. by an American manufacturer is the Ford Escape Hybrid, with cumulative sales of 106,467 vehicles by December 2010, followed by the Fusion Hybrid, with sales of 36,370 units.[90] Japan and the U.S. represented 84% of global hybrid sales in 2009.[95] U.S. sales of the Toyota Prius reached the 1.0 million milestone in early April 2011,[11] and cumulative hybrid vehicle sales in the American market reached 2.0 million units in May 2011.[9] Cumulative sales of the Prii in Japan reached the 1 million mark in August 2011.[1]
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

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    Moving oil through the pipeline no

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Fires with these hybrids are not an isolated incident....

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    Please recall that the recall has nothing to do with the hybrid technology, is hose clamp faluire not a faluire or a design issue with the hybrid technology.

    Any car with coolant hoses not properly secured could catch fire
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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    Actually, I was pleased to see that they had sold any cars at all. I do know that there is a dealer in Fairfax, VA.
    This was never intended to be a high volume product, at over $100k a pop.

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    Re: Fisker Recalling 239 Karma Plug-In Hybrids for Fire Hazard

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Funny enough, they have only sold 50 of the vehicles. The other 189 are still sitting on dealer showrooms or on the factory parking lot.
    With a 100k+ starting price, it's hardly gonna be a volume seller. I bet it will be their halo car and the success of the Karma will determine Fisker's near future as a possible American competitor to the other American car staples.

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