Page 39 of 46 FirstFirst ... 293738394041 ... LastLast
Results 381 to 390 of 459

Thread: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

  1. #381
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Yeah, I knew 30 years of tax cuts to the rich and unfunded wars were going to come back to bite us. What does that have to do with SS? SS has not added a single dime to our debt.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  2. #382
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,856
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Why not just let anyone who wants to buy into Medicare?

    Why not allow employers to put their employees on Medicare?

    I'll tell you why we don't: The insurance lobby would never allow it, that's why.
    But I'm quite sure they would allow those with pre-existing conditions. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing their best to drop them like hot potatoes.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  3. #383
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's irrelevant to this discussion.
    Paying 20% - 30% more for private insurance may be irrelevant to you does not make it irrelevant to the majority who pay for health insurance.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  4. #384
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,505

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But I'm quite sure they would allow those with pre-existing conditions. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing their best to drop them like hot potatoes.
    I'm sure they would, just as they're willing to allow seniors to opt into Medicare and out of the private sector. Let's give all of the most expensive demographic to the government. That will improve the bottom line.

    We should all be on Medicare, or at least have that option.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

  5. #385
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    03-16-12 @ 11:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,624

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah, I knew 30 years of tax cuts to the rich and unfunded wars were going to come back to bite us. What does that have to do with SS? SS has not added a single dime to our debt.
    Like another, what a waste of time to try and discuss anything with you.

  6. #386
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Like another, what a waste of time to try and discuss anything with you.
    You tell me what debt SS has created, if you can?
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  7. #387
    Sage
    Karl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    12-18-14 @ 09:35 AM
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    5,561

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Hardly... the atomic bomb? Really??
    You are under the impression that the Manhattan Project was run by Wal-Mart?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You don't seem to get it... when the Government steps in and manages something - it's a failure.

    1. Postal System
    2. Amtrak
    3. Obama Care (see previous post) which will eventually bankrupt the country
    4. The entire K-12 U.S. Educational system
    5. Energy Grid
    6. Roads and Bridges which were created but cannot be repaired
    7. Medicare overspending for drugs
    8. Freddie and Fannie
    Oh, I got your claim, but you are unable to prove it. Your cites are examples of programs that worked fine for decades, but have come under fire lately for problems related to the 2008 Economic Crash or simple progress combined with Congressional malfeasance (the Postal System).

    That Obamacare is not even really implemented yet shows the desperate nature of your argument (claiming that something has failed before it has even fully begun).

    Infrastructure problems are an issue of recent neglect (in favor of exotic weapon systems, Republican tax cuts, and overseas wars) -- not of any failure in concept or implementation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And since you'd like to go all the way back to the Hoover Dam, let's throw in

    9. Vietnam
    10. Bay of Pigs
    11. The Military Industrial Complex
    12. U.S. Federal Reserve (including QE1 and QE2)
    13. The INS

    Now don't you feel foolish parroting moronic liberal talking points from MSNBC?
    Yet you claimed the military was the bright shiny nugget of governmental stewardship. Nope, I'm not the one feeling foolish....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham, earlier View Post
    [...] The Governments track record of managing ANYTHING other than the military (and even that is suspect economically) [...]
    Last edited by Karl; 01-05-12 at 09:18 PM.

  8. #388
    Sage
    misterman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    02-09-12 @ 08:41 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,913

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Now don't you feel foolish parroting moronic liberal talking points from MSNBC?
    So you made a list of government failures (not that they're all failures, but whatever). Wow. Government fails sometimes. So does everyone. The private sector fails massively sometimes. You want a list of all the bankruptcies, idiotic decisions and scandals from the private sector lately? That would be just as stupid as your list - and it would be even bigger too.

    Knock it off and join reality.
    "Yes I read the 9th [amendment]. It doesn't say **** about abortion." -Jamesrage

  9. #389
    Sage
    misterman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    02-09-12 @ 08:41 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,913

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Infrastructure problems are an issue of recent neglect (in favor of exotic weapon systems, Republican tax cuts, and overseas wars) -- not of any failure in concept or implementation.
    It's the pattern - right wingers starve and obstruct government, then blame government for the failure. Same with the Postal Service.

    Yet you claimed the military was the bright shiny nugget of governmental stewardship. Nope, I'm not the one feeling foolish....
    Oops.
    "Yes I read the 9th [amendment]. It doesn't say **** about abortion." -Jamesrage

  10. #390
    Sage
    misterman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    02-09-12 @ 08:41 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,913

    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Oh, also, if the Bay of Pigs is a failure for our government, doesn't that make it a shining success for the government of Cuba? The communist government of Cuba? He got greedy with his list.
    "Yes I read the 9th [amendment]. It doesn't say **** about abortion." -Jamesrage

Page 39 of 46 FirstFirst ... 293738394041 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •