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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I'd have to vote for Paul, and hope that more reasonable people keep him in check in office.
    Who? Republicans in Congress, members of the party who nominated and ran with Paul? Or do you mean that Democrats are more reasonable?

    You're still stuck.
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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Who? Republicans in Congress, members of the party who nominated and ran with Paul? Or do you mean that Democrats are more reasonable?

    You're still stuck.

    Well, that would be a real quandary if Paul were to get the nomination...But he won't....The real threat from Ron Paul is that he runs third party and helps Obama indirectly.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, that would be a real quandary if Paul were to get the nomination...But he won't....The real threat from Ron Paul is that he runs third party and helps Obama indirectly.
    That would be entertaining too.
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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That would be entertaining too.

    I guess...For some...For others it would be disheartening, and a real shame.


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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Foreign combatants waging acts of war, to kill American civilians, are not entitled to the same rights we afford our citizenry....

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    Then proving they are actually foreign combatants waging acts of war shouldn't be too tough then, should it?
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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then proving they are actually foreign combatants waging acts of war shouldn't be too tough then, should it?

    Yep, and when they get to Gitmo, they will get a status review no doubt. But NOT in our court system.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, and when they get to Gitmo, they will get a status review no doubt. But NOT in our court system.

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    So before proving they are actual "combatants", we throw them in a place where they are denied fair trial and claim they will get a "review" there with no time line given and no way to ensure that we are actually imprisoning those whom were fighting against us?
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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    If Ron Paul is your picture perfect definition of conservative and Kucinich is the same for liberal, then yes...Obama is a moderate centrist.

    As was George W. Bush

    As is almost every politician that's significantly ran for POTUS.
    Funny that those who argue against indefinate detention and invading other countries are considered the fringe and those who support it are called the moderate.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you place your faith more in unelected people making law through edict....Interesting.


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    Determining whether a law is Constitutional is their job. This clearly isn't.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So before proving they are actual "combatants", we throw them in a place where they are denied fair trial and claim they will get a "review" there with no time line given and no way to ensure that we are actually imprisoning those whom were fighting against us?

    Let's use KSM as an example...Do you think he deserved a "fair trial" in the United States proper?


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