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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I agree with Paul a lot. Where I deviate is along the gold standard and Federal Reserve marks. We need fiat currency in this global economy and the government needs to have total control on setting the value of that currency. And they were granted the power. That's not to say there aren't problems with the Fed; there are. But getting rid of it isn't the solution. It needs to be made 100% property of Congress (only Congress was given authority to print and regulate the value of our currency) and there needs to be proper restriction, regulation, and oversight on it.

    I want us to be the shining city on the hill again, Ron Paul I do believe can help move us back in that direction. The Republocrats in general however just wish to tarnish America and our great Republic even more.
    Again, largely I agree. But don't down play our part in this too much. Both parties have reacted to what they htink a majority really wants. And we do continue to vote for them.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think that this law is an act of treason against the People.
    No argument from me.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    I think that the NH Union leader publisher had it right in his Op Ed...

    A Wall Street Journal columnist notes that Paul is “a leading spokesman for, and recycler of, the long and familiar litany of charges that point to the United States as a leading agent of evil and injustice, the militarist victimizer of millions who want only to live in peace.”

    Perhaps this warped view is why Paul believes that al-Qaida terrorists caught in the United States ought to be treated as common criminals, not enemy combatants. He wants them read Miranda rights to which they are not entitled and he wants them tried and sentenced in civil courts rather than by military tribunals.

    This is nothing short of nuts. What is needed to competently fight a war, and al-Qaida is indeed at war with us, is the ability to gather information. Telling the enemy that it has a “right to remain silent” is absurd.

    Paul believes that if a U.S. citizen throws in with al-Qaida or associated groups overseas, where he plots American death and destruction, we need to somehow find him, arrest him, and bring him back to stand civil trial here rather than eliminate him, even if that is the only option.

    We are in a much different kind of war than we have ever faced, but Paul doesn’t see it. He has repeatedly said that U.S. aggression is responsible for 9-11 and other attacks on America from radical jihadists.

    He has repeatedly said that we should allow Iran to continue to develop a nuclear weapon. This is the same country whose leadership vows death to America, the “Satanic power,” and who wants Israel wiped from the map.


    Never mind Paul being the favored candidate of the lunatic fringe (see white supremacists, anti-Semites, truthers, etc.). Never mind his refusal to disavow a third-party run (which would only help President Obama’s reelection).

    His defenders say they admire Ron Paul’s “consistency.” It is true, Paul has been consistently spouting this nonsense.

    Joseph W. McQuaid: Ron Paul is truly dangerous | New Hampshire OPINION01

    Paul would guarantee a second Obama term, and likely will not make it past IA.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think that the NH Union leader publisher had it right in his Op Ed...




    Paul would guarantee a second Obama term, and likely will not make it past IA.

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    I'm still unsure why you guys fear due process. I'm convinced if this comes to pass, you will regret it, but find a way to blame someone else.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think that this law is an act of treason against the People.
    that's cause u haven't read it.

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think that the NH Union leader publisher had it right in his Op Ed...




    Paul would guarantee a second Obama term, and likely will not make it past IA.

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    No doubt Paul running either as the Republican nominee or as a third party candidate would make a second Obama term much more likely.

    But, you're agreeing with a union leader? Will wonders never cease?
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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No doubt Paul running either as the Republican nominee or as a third party candidate would make a second Obama term much more likely.

    But, you're agreeing with a union leader? Will wonders never cease?

    Probably the only "union" anything where this would be true.....good one...heh, heh....

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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Paul would guarantee a second Obama term, and likely will not make it past IA.

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    It would be entertaining to watch you pick between Paul and Obama though.
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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It would be entertaining to watch you pick between Paul and Obama though.

    I'd have to vote for Paul, and hope that more reasonable people keep him in check in office. But I sure wouldn't like it.

    here is another astute observation of Paul....

    Why GOP voters should reject Ron Paul's dangerous and offensive foreign policy - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com


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    Re: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think that the NH Union leader publisher had it right in his Op Ed...




    Paul would guarantee a second Obama term, and likely will not make it past IA.

    j-mac
    Heaven forbid due process of law as required by the Constitution, right?

    You big government types are all the same.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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