Thread: With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Though following the law. Yes. I believe the law should be followed. I know that is worse than allowing politicians to break the law, but that's who I am.

Ok, congratulations. You've managed to totally skirt what was asked, and make a statement that is pure straw.

Now, back to the question asked....Do you Joe, believe that the courts are who should be making law in this country?


j-mac

What happened to "Don't Tread on Me"?

Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

I don't. I'm working to render political parties irrelevant.

Who will join you in that effort? And what will you call your new group?

Originally Posted by j-mac

Ok, congratulations. You've managed to totally skirt what was asked, and make a statement that is pure straw.

Now, back to the question asked....Do you Joe, believe that the courts are who should be making law in this country?


j-mac

J, your question is drenched in flawed thinking. No one said a thing about them making law. Only enforcing the law, which this bill breaks. So, I stand by my answer as it is not a strawman, but the proper response to your . . . strawman.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

J, your question is drenched in flawed thinking. No one said a thing about them making law. Only enforcing the law, which this bill breaks. So, I stand by my answer as it is not a strawman, but the proper response to your . . . strawman.

So, the bill that Obama signed into law, actually breaks the law? Please back up that assertion.


j-mac

Originally Posted by j-mac

So, the bill that Obama signed into law, actually breaks the law? Please back up that assertion.


j-mac

Yes. as noted in posts above. I truely believe it breaks the law, and i think the courts will rule that it does. Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness cannot be taken without due process. I'm shocked at how scared some are of proper due process. As a people, we should never be that scared.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Yes. as noted in posts above. I truely believe it breaks the law, and i think the courts will rule that it does. Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness cannot be taken without due process. I'm shocked at how scared some are of proper due process. As a people, we should never be that scared.

You still haven't shown where you believe that the law was broken in this law....I have no patience to search for what your claim is, so could you just link to the law broken, and or argument that shows where Obama broke the law in signing this bill?


j-mac

Originally Posted by j-mac

You still haven't shown where you believe that the law was broken in this law....I have no patience to search for what your claim is, so could you just link to the law broken, and or argument that shows where Obama broke the law in signing this bill?


j-mac

You have read that part in the constitution? Odd.

Ron Paul addresses it fairly well here. Look at Paul's comments, and what he cites.

Ron Paul Calls National Defense Authorization Act "Slip Into Tyranny"

Interestingly enough, this bill could very well be used against Congress (How Congress is Signing its own Arrest Warrants in the NDAA Citizen Arrest bill | Naomi Wolf) and in addition, according to a constitutional attorney the NDAA also makes closing Guantanamo a near impossibility (Constitutional attorney: Guantanamo ‘nearly impossible to close’ thanks to NDAA | The Raw Story)

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

You have read that part in the constitution? Odd.

Ron Paul addresses it fairly well here. Look at Paul's comments, and what he cites.

Ron Paul Calls National Defense Authorization Act "Slip Into Tyranny"

Ok, so Obama has violated his oath of office....But I am confident that you will still pull the lever for him this fall won't you?

BTW, Ron Paul on national defense is a whack job.


j-mac