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2 abortion providers charged with murder in Md.

2 abortion providers charged with murder in Md. - Yahoo! News

" Authorities say two out-of-state doctors who traveled to Maryland to perform late-term abortions have been arrested and charged with multiple counts of murder, an unusual use of a law that allows for murder charges in the death of a viable fetus."

This is great news, though I'm sorry to hear it's an "unusual use" of a law. Late term abortions = murder. Couldn't agree more.
 
I usually don't participate in abortion threads b/c it's pointless. I will say this is all rather hypocritical!! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
 
2 abortion providers charged with murder in Md. - Yahoo! News

" Authorities say two out-of-state doctors who traveled to Maryland to perform late-term abortions have been arrested and charged with multiple counts of murder, an unusual use of a law that allows for murder charges in the death of a viable fetus."
It takes to two to tango. Hopefully they arrest and charge those who solicited these murderers and participated in murdering their children.
 
This is great news, though I'm sorry to hear it's an "unusual use" of a law. Late term abortions = murder. Couldn't agree more.

Not only that, the reason they were caught in the first place is that they ridiculously botched the procedure, rupturing the woman's uterus.
 
Not only that, the reason they were caught in the first place is that they ridiculously botched the procedure, rupturing the woman's uterus.
plus this:

"Rather than call 911, Riley drove her to a nearby hospital, where both she and Brigham were uncooperative and Brigham refused to give his name, documents show.

A search of the clinic after the botched abortion revealed a freezer containing 35 late-term fetuses, including one believed to have been aborted at 36 weeks, the documents show."
 
Keeping the evidence in a freezer isn't very bright.
 
plus this:

"Rather than call 911, Riley drove her to a nearby hospital, where both she and Brigham were uncooperative and Brigham refused to give his name, documents show.

A search of the clinic after the botched abortion revealed a freezer containing 35 late-term fetuses, including one believed to have been aborted at 36 weeks, the documents show."

Everything in this story was basically immoral and stupid combined into one big ****up.
 
2 abortion providers charged with murder in Md. - Yahoo! News

" Authorities say two out-of-state doctors who traveled to Maryland to perform late-term abortions have been arrested and charged with multiple counts of murder, an unusual use of a law that allows for murder charges in the death of a viable fetus."
While I think they should be charged for malpractice because of the harm they caused to the woman, I don't support and will likely never support it being illegal to perform late-term abortions, so the rest of the case and the law, as far as I'm concerned, is dumb as hell.
 
Well this is one of the more stupid ****ing things I have heard of recently.
 
While I think they should be charged for malpractice because of the harm they caused to the woman, I don't support and will likely never support it being illegal to perform late-term abortions, so the rest of the case and the law, as far as I'm concerned, is dumb as hell.
There are many laws that I disagree with but very few that I would call 'dumb as hell'. Why is it dumb as hell to ban late term abortions?
 
There are many laws that I disagree with but very few that I would call 'dumb as hell'. Why is it dumb as hell to ban late term abortions?
Because I think it's dumb to ban abortion in general not only because people are just going to end up getting them done by people who don't know what the hell they are doing (as we see in this story) and because the "rights" of a fetus should not be elevated above the rights of an adult.
 
Because I think it's dumb to ban abortion in general not only because people are just going to end up getting them done by people who don't know what the hell they are doing (as we see in this story)
Most, if not all laws get broken. That doesn't make them all dumb as hell.


and because the "rights" of a fetus should not be elevated above the rights of an adult.
Are they, or is the right to live being elevated above the right to late term abortion?
 
Most, if not all laws get broken. That doesn't make them all dumb as hell.
Which is why I treat every law as a specific case and in the case of abortion it's dumb as hell.

Are they, or is the right to live being elevated above the right to late term abortion?
That's just another way of saying the rights of a fetus are being elevated above the rights of an adult. You've just specified the rights. I'll specify them another way - the right of a potential person to exist over the right of an actual person to control their body. No matter how you phrase it - still dumb.
 
Had these abortions been performed earlier, then there would have been no arrests.

Malpractice suits, maybe, due to the ruptured uterus, but no arrests.

and if life begins at conception, what difference does it make whether the abortion was done at week 21, day 21, or hour 21?
 
July 21, 2010: "Steven Chase Brigham, a physician whose medical license has been revoked, relinquished, or temporarily suspended in five states, is now facing regulatory and tax troubles that could jeopardize his chain of 15 abortion clinics.
The Pennsylvania Department of Health this month ordered Brigham to permanently shut his four clinics in the state for repeatedly employing unlicensed caregivers." More trouble for abortion doctor, this time in Pennsylvania - Philly.com

August 31, 2010: Nicola I. Riley Order for Summary Suspension of License to Practice Medicine [in Maryland]

http://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/orders/D7121308.310.pdf
 
I'm rather surprised we don't use aborted fetuses as a food source. They're not human, after all. Even at week 36...
 
I'm rather surprised we don't use aborted fetuses as a food source. They're not human, after all. Even at week 36...

Well, to be fair, there's a lot of non-human things we don't use as a food source...like grass.
 
I'm rather surprised we don't use aborted fetuses as a food source. They're not human, after all. Even at week 36...
They are human and I'm pretty sure most pro-choice people agree - so your hyperbole doesn't really work.
 
Well, to be fair, there's a lot of non-human things we don't use as a food source...like grass.

Goat food? Interesting, though. I wonder what living things/creatures aren't used as a food source by something...I'd venture to say not many.
 
They are human and I'm pretty sure most pro-choice people agree - so your hyperbole doesn't really work.

How come they're "human" but not entitled to protection? (I'm talking about a viable fetus.) Actually, your post is what prompted this thought...that even late-term abortions are perfectly fine. Or did I misread?
 
How come they're "human" but not entitled to protection? (I'm talking about a viable fetus.) Actually, your post is what prompted this thought...that even late-term abortions are perfectly fine. Or did I misread?
Yes, late term abortions are fine, but nowhere did I say that they aren't human. You just completely made that up.

A fetus is human. A woman is human. I believe the rights of the full grown woman are more important than the rights of barely functioning human.
 
Yes, late term abortions are fine, but nowhere did I say that they aren't human. You just completely made that up.

A fetus is human. A woman is human. I believe the rights of the full grown woman are more important than the rights of barely functioning human.

Sad. I'm glad you draw the line of "barely functioning" as in utereo, though. At least I assume you do...
 
Yes, late term abortions are fine, but nowhere did I say that they aren't human. You just completely made that up.

A fetus is human. A woman is human. I believe the rights of the full grown woman are more important than the rights of barely functioning human.

Just to provide perspective, take a look at this YouTube page and see what a living 36-week old baby looks like:

36 week old baby - YouTube
 
Sad. I'm glad you draw the line of "barely functioning" as in utereo, though. At least I assume you do...
What's sad? That I disagree with you? If so, I'm unmoved.

And I don't know what you mean by "draw the line". I've already said that abortions should be performed whenever.
 
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