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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    i doubt nuclear weapons are too big a reason,if it were israel could have easily destroyed their reactor and is not afraid of iran.this has to do with the fact the world prices and pays for oil in dollars and iran has threatened to switch to another currency which would hurt our currency's value.as well as iran iraq and venezuela have all threatened to switch trading currencies which one of them we have already went to war with,iraq switched to euros in 2000 and was invaded 3 years later with plans spanning back to the beginning of bush's presidency.

    for a pretty simple explanation go to Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Sanctions are having an effect per this recent article from MSNBC.com today though I do worry about the anxiety building up from both sides.



    As this portion of the article clearly indicates, Iran's being back into an economic and energy reserve corner with very little wiggle room. If you recall world and U.S. history, this is pretty much what happened between the U.S. and Japan leading up to the attack on Pearl Harbor only in reverse. Back then, we squeezed Japan and basically kept them from getting access to any foreign oil reserves. Now with Iran, sactions will make it much more difficult for them to sell oil on the international market. And seeing that oil is their last remaining commodity...

    Unless Iran backs down, gives up their nuclear (weapons) ambitions and returns to the negotiating table...well, let's not even think about it.
    I actually just was looking into this, but you beat me too it. Yes, surprise, sanctions are working. Once again, people assume since it did not work in another country with an entirely different situation, it must never work. In this case, Iran is now looking to negotiate on the topic of nuclear weapons. Sanctions do not always work, but they are effective with some frequency, and they are a much better opening step than military options.
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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

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    i doubt nuclear weapons are too big a reason,if it were israel could have easily destroyed their reactor and is not afraid of iran.this has to do with the fact the world prices and pays for oil in dollars and iran has threatened to switch to another currency which would hurt our currency's value.as well as iran iraq and venezuela have all threatened to switch trading currencies which one of them we have already went to war with,iraq switched to euros in 2000 and was invaded 3 years later with plans spanning back to the beginning of bush's presidency.

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    We do not want Israel striking Iran. Israel does not want to if they can avoid it. The potential destabilization in the region from such is large.
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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We do not want Israel striking Iran. Israel does not want to if they can avoid it. The potential destabilization in the region from such is large.
    you really underestimate israel,they have the best spies in the world and are know for being sneaky,they dealt with this problem once before in iraq without raising much attention.

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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    you really underestimate israel,they have the best spies in the world and are know for being sneaky,they dealt with this problem once before in iraq without raising much attention.
    There are significant limits to what can be done covertly.
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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There are significant limits to what can be done covertly.
    not to mention just isreals swift silent response,i am torn between having to go to war with iran,i left active army to go guard.on one hand it could be really fun or it could be like my last deployment that ended six months ago as an expeditionary force building everything out of nothing,which was still fun except the 10 foot cobras deadly pit vipers and monster centipedes,though the scorpions there were quite tiny :/.

    i have faith the problem will be solved unless there is lots of money and fun to be involved!

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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    i doubt nuclear weapons are too big a reason,if it were israel could have easily destroyed their reactor and is not afraid of iran. this has to do with the fact the world prices and pays for oil in dollars and iran has threatened to switch to another currency which would hurt our currency's value.as well as iran iraq and venezuela have all threatened to switch trading currencies which one of them we have already went to war with,iraq switched to euros in 2000 and was invaded 3 years later with plans spanning back to the beginning of bush's presidency.

    for a pretty simple explanation go to Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You must've read "Bad Money," by Kevin Phillips because that's exactly what he said in his book, that Iran stopped selling oil in U.S. dollars and had encouraged other nations to start doing the same thing. And it's true that former President Bush did, in fact, have plans already in place to invade Iraq which he upgraded in the months before actually invading the country. That information was published in national news. So, the real reason we invaded Iraq makes sense. It was about oil, but it was also about currency manipulation.

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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You must've read "Bad Money," by Kevin Phillips because that's exactly what he said in his book, that Iran stopped selling oil in U.S. dollars and had encouraged other nations to start doing the same thing. And it's true that former President Bush did, in fact, have plans already in place to invade Iraq which he upgraded in the months before actually invading the country. That information was published in national news. So, the real reason we invaded Iraq makes sense. It was about oil, but it was also about currency manipulation.
    i actually learned from my deployment to afghanistan,from documentaries to history lessons from german and swedish soldiers.its amazing how much has happened in us history that is removed from history books.i didnt even know until i deployed that in word war one england and germany were fighting over what is now modern day iraq over oil.ww1 in itself seems to be blank from all shool history books.also learned about the ending of the gold standard and trading for oil in dollars and the oil crisis happened all roughly around the same time.i cant remember the name of documentary but it was by an english comedian and he went in depth over all the blank spots in oils history,it was someone someone's history of oil.

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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    et al,

    Reference: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060070530

    My apologies. It was brought to attention that I did not supply a link to articles from which I made a quote. Here they are:


    Sunday 4 December 2011 The Guardian. Afghan anti-corruption watchdog threatens to quit:
    Afghan anti-corruption watchdog threatens to quit | World news | The Guardian

    September 11, 2011|By Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times. Nouri Maliki accepts resignation of top Iraq corruption fighter
    Nouri Maliki accepts resignation of top Iraq corruption fighter - Los Angeles Times

    CNN US June 15, 2004: Bush: Afghanistan is a victory over terrorism
    Bush: Afghanistan is a victory over terrorism - CNN


    Again, my apologies.

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    Re: Strait of Hormuz standoff: Iran films US aircraft carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    not to mention just isreals swift silent response,i am torn between having to go to war with iran,i left active army to go guard.on one hand it could be really fun or it could be like my last deployment that ended six months ago as an expeditionary force building everything out of nothing,which was still fun except the 10 foot cobras deadly pit vipers and monster centipedes,though the scorpions there were quite tiny :/.

    i have faith the problem will be solved unless there is lots of money and fun to be involved!
    Sorry but war is NEVER fun. I'd suggest you put yourself on the front line with bullets flying over and watching your friends die around you and then attenst that it is fun. Sad state that some live in to think war is fun.

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