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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wow!!! That almost sounds like you're saying that the government can listen in on my private conversations without a warrant.

    Libbos blow me away! They really do!!

    We don't have the right to secret speech!
    I hate to break it to you, but that has been happening for years and years already. I am hardly endorsing it (as it quite maddening) but it is already happening.

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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

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    You seem to distinguish between their political activities and their criminal activities which were one and the same. That is exactly what apdst wants to do is protect his identity when he does his political activities.
    Not sure what your point is here. As far as I can tell me and apdst are in complete agreement...just saying things differently is all.

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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wow!!! That almost sounds like you're saying that the government can listen in on my private conversations without a warrant.

    Libbos blow me away! They really do!!

    We don't have the right to secret speech!
    Giving money to a politician is hardly the same thing has having a private conversation. You know, because you're giving money to a PUBLIC servant.

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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Giving money to a politician is hardly the same thing has having a private conversation. You know, because you're giving money to a PUBLIC servant.
    Um, no...I'm making a donation to the campaign of an elected official, not a public servant.
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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Ban political advertising of any kind on TV. Problem mostly solved.

    Oh and make it illegal for congressmen/women to do insider trading. That way being a congressman/woman aint the gravy train it once was.
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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Ban political advertising of any kind on TV. Problem mostly solved.
    So much for the 1st Amendment.

    Why is it that everytime a Libbo comes up with a way to fix something, someone's rights get the axe in the process?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So much for the 1st Amendment.

    Why is it that everytime a Libbo comes up with a way to fix something, someone's rights get the axe in the process?
    Has NOTHING to do with the 1st Amendment. Anyone is free to take out flyers, radio broadcasts, newspaper adds, and so on. Plus there should of course be X minutes of air time per candidate to present his/her political agenda on TV.. party political broadcasts is what they call them over here. So candidates wont be totally cut off from TV, but you will limit the amount of money needed to run a campaign and of course prevent 524s or whatever they are call to use TV as well.. which is only a bonus. Aint you one of those Soros haters after all?
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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Has NOTHING to do with the 1st Amendment. Anyone is free to take out flyers, radio broadcasts, newspaper adds, and so on. Plus there should of course be X minutes of air time per candidate to present his/her political agenda on TV.. party political broadcasts is what they call them over here. So candidates wont be totally cut off from TV, but you will limit the amount of money needed to run a campaign and of course prevent 524s or whatever they are call to use TV as well.. which is only a bonus. Aint you one of those Soros haters after all?
    It has everything to do with the 1st Amendment. Political candidates are private citizens. If they have the money to pay the going rate for a TV spot and the TV station agrees to run the ad, it would be un-constitutional for the government to make that illegal.

    Yeah, I'm a Soros hater, but I'm not willing to flush the Constitution down the toilet, just to handicap my political opponents.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It has everything to do with the 1st Amendment. Political candidates are private citizens. If they have the money to pay the going rate for a TV spot and the TV station agrees to run the ad, it would be un-constitutional for the government to make that illegal.

    Yeah, I'm a Soros hater, but I'm not willing to flush the Constitution down the toilet, just to handicap my political opponents.
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    here is a problem with that. If candidate a can afford x amount of time and candidate b can only afford z amount one has more free speech via the dollar.

    Essentially cutting the others right to free speech on a equal footing.

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    Re: Economic downturn took a detour at Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
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    here is a problem with that. If candidate a can afford x amount of time and candidate b can only afford z amount one has more free speech via the dollar.

    Essentially cutting the others right to free speech on a equal footing.
    Exactly one of the main problems with TV advertisement and political campaigns. That is why we banned them from TV in most of Europe, because it skewed the political process towards the big rich parties/people, and left the rest in the dust. Now everyone has a much more even footing to compete free and fair on. No one is impeding their free speech. In fact I would claim that it makes the candidate give a damn about his constituents, since he is forced to actually meet and discuss with them more, rather than just throw out a tv commercial.
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