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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

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    Very scary isn't it that American citizens on this forum (at least they claim to be), are against or angry at their fellow country men for having the guts to go out in the cold and let their grievances with what is going on in their own country be known. If Protesting in the United States Of America is looked down upon and virtually ignored by our media and government, why are American Soldiers going half way across the world because some other foreeign country is looking down upon their protesters and we want them to protest and air their grievances but we find our own protesters muzzled, mistreated, and inprisoned. A very crazy world were living in.
    What are they accomplishing? I see video after video of OWS protesters blocking innocent citizens and making messes and fighting with cops... for what? They are harassing people, resisting arrest, trashing public places... if this is "protesting" in America then we are already ****ed.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant
    That's probably because you're befuddled.

    Actually there laws against making a mess and the EPA, among others, try to enforce them. There are also anti littering laws, though perhaps not in your immediate area.

    If they have a name attached to them (as well as some living organisms most likely),and are attending their protest in a common cause, it is not an "informal gathering".

    Sure.
    I'd like to get all pedantic about charging entire groups for the crimes of a few individuals and the distinction between "informal" groups where you can just show up and "formal" groups that at least write down who's attending...but you just killed it, man.

    I was all ready to rip you apart, standing at home plate ready to nail one out of the park...and your pitch, your desultory "Nu-uh!" didn't even make it halfway from the pitcher's mound. Honestly dude, if you can't refute someone, the very least you could do is provide some entertaining snark. The opposition doesn't always have to appreciate it, but I even doubt that anyone on your side of the issue smirked at that post.

    Someone ought to have a word with our current Dungeon Master, if this is the type of smack they're teaching kids these days...
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I agree...but that should have been done from the get go. Kind of useless to close the barn door after the horses have run.
    Has the statute of limitations already run its course?

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

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    When Parks refused to give up her seat, a police officer arrested her. As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked, "Why do you push us around?" The officer's response as she remembered it was, "I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."[18] She later said, "I only knew that, as I was being arrested, that it was the very last time that I would ever ride in humiliation of this kind..."[1]


    Ok, I guess you could call refusing to give up the seat a passive sort of resisting, however, I don't think she was calling them names, spitting on them, throwing bottles, or rocks. She was asked by the officer, refused, and was arrested without problem as far as how the story goes. Nothing like these people today.

    Why am I not surprised that a Conservative would fail basic African-American history?
    Why am I surprised that liberals can't hold a conversation without some dumb ass thing like this added into their dialogue? How sad.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, I guess you could call refusing to give up the seat a passive sort of resisting, however, I don't think she was calling them names, spitting on them, throwing bottles, or rocks. She was asked by the officer, refused, and was arrested without problem as far as how the story goes. Nothing like these people today.



    Why am I surprised that liberals can't hold a conversation without some dumb ass thing like this added into their dialogue? How sad.

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    When Bodi says: "If this is "protesting" in America today, then we are already ****ed", I let it go because of his young age. You, on the other hand, Mr. gray beard trucker, need a refresher course. Here's a link to Google images for Chicago 1968:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=chic...w=1367&bih=649

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    When Bodi says: "If this is "protesting" in America today, then we are already ****ed", I let it go because of his young age. You, on the other hand, Mr. gray beard trucker, need a refresher course. Here's a link to Google images for Chicago 1968:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=chic...w=1367&bih=649

    Yes, I agree. Not like today.

    Hmmm....I did not see Ms. Parks in that. Nor do I think that that video was inside the bus that day.....


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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm....I did not see Ms. Parks in that. Nor do I think that that video was inside the bus that day.....


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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    The question is about people's right to protest. The question is, do the protestors have a right to fiscally impact their local government, especially when the protest is focused at the Federal level.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The question is about people's right to protest. The question is, do the protestors have a right to fiscally impact their local government, especially when the protest is focused at the Federal level.
    Yes. Since no protest is without some sort of cost you are just going to have to chalk it up as the price of freedom.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And yet...they were protests. One's that many consider valid.

    No see, they were protesting for something that all decent American's could support. Unlike the current crop out there in many cases not even knowing what the hell they are there for, or if they do it is some message of spoiled, childish, gimme, gimme, gimme crap like ...."I shouldn't have to pay my student loans", or "it isn't fair that someone else is more successful than me"....

    People in this country for the most part, including myself worked hard, for many years to obtain what we have, and that some spoiled, 20something brat doesn't walk out of collage with their Bolivian basket weaving degree into a six digit job, is just too damned bad. I am not shedding a tear for them. Also that they or anyone else has the gall to compare their temper tantrum to the struggles of the civil rights era is an insult, and disgusting to anyone with intelligence.

    I think this sums it up rather nicely....

    After talking with protesters at Occupy Wall Street in Zuccotti Park, I understood what was so different between OWS and the 1960s Civil Rights Movement. The gripe of OWS is with those who stole too much and left too little for others. Millions feel this way. But, that does not place OWS protesters in the shoes of Fannie Lou Hamer.

    At Zuccotti Park, I heard shouting about the homeless. I read signs about student loan debt. Anti-war buttons were sold. I bought t-shirts deriding invasion of privacy with caricatures of Uncle Sam. One tourist from France asked, “Why are you here?” A young man with a bull horn, tan skin, and curly brown hair, stood on a short stone wall, and shouted this nonsensical line, “The fact that the government does not want us here is reason enough to be here.”

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    The Civil Rights Movement was about getting rights clearly guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution. That fight took discipline, foresight, strategies, and cooperation, while we were embattled on all fronts. Young people and our elders sacrificed 381 days for the Montgomery Bus Boycott. Charles Hamilton Houston worked himself to death creating legal strategies to overturn the apartheid ruling of Plessy v. Ferguson.

    Have we forgotten?

    Yes, the OWS issues are important. Police abused OWS protesters. Like the sheriffs of the Jim Crow era, police respond to power. OWS expected the police to honor their rights. In this hard-scrabble economy, being White in the 99% bears little weight to politicians relying on big donations.

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    The police abuse of OWS is nothing compared to the depraved attacks suffered by Black women as punishment for gains in Civil Rights.

    OWS should not suffer trial by fire before they can claim to be a legitimate movement. But, claims of hostilities against OWS become questionable when Russell Simmons and other celebrities are dropping by for photo-ops.

    OWS, While Just Protest, Not The Same As Civil Rights Movement
    Although I don't agree with every word this man writes about in the article, he is spot on in the things I highlighted.


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