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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Uninformed one. Show me where I said that a protest should not "be allowed". What I, and many others have maintained, is that they must abide by the law, or be arrested.

    Doofi abound.
    Exactly. You have. You have advocated that they need permits in order to protest. City/state laws require permits. So if they don't get one they should be arrested...IE not allowed to protest. Never mind the fact that the Constution makes no requirements for having to have a permit. Never mind that the Constitution is considered the Supreme Law of the Land and trumps any local, state or federal law.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    I can't believe you wrote that.
    That's probably because you're befuddled.
    If the protesters are making a mess, ****ing write a goddamned law against making a mess and then charge the responsible individuals with a ****ing crime.
    Actually there laws against making a mess and the EPA, among others, try to enforce them. There are also anti littering laws, though perhaps not in your immediate area.

    Foisting responsibility for the actions of a few onto an informally gathered group says that informal groups are not allowed to assemble if anyone ever has the means and the motive to run a false flag operation. That's a ****ing death blow to the freedom of assembly.
    If they have a name attached to them (as well as some living organisms most likely),and are attending their protest in a common cause, it is not an "informal gathering".

    Trivializing the Constitution is EXACTLY what you are doing.
    Sure.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Exactly. You have. You have advocated that they need permits in order to protest. City/state laws require permits. So if they don't get one they should be arrested...IE not allowed to protest. Never mind the fact that the Constution makes no requirements for having to have a permit. Never mind that the Constitution is considered the Supreme Law of the Land and trumps any local, state or federal law.
    LOL ... I have advocated the Law. Show me an Unconstitutional Law regarding permits, curfews, etc. Being as you are a Constitutional Scholar and all.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Did Rosa break the law?
    Please answer the question before you ask one.


    Doesn't matter if Rosa Parks acted alone.
    It doesn't?? If Rosa Parks were part of a mob do you feel her name would be so revered today? Perhaps you should take a moment to consider that.
    As far as the OWS message goes. Its pretty simple. They're pissed that the 1% has screwed up the economy and that they are sending all the jobs overseas and they are pissed that the 1 percenters have continued to get rich through out the recession while everyone else got screwed.
    Non fact based generalities is what I expected and that's just what I got. Little wonder this chorus of chanters gets little attention apart from the disruptions they make for real people and the garbage and damage they leave behind them. If 99% of the people need someone to speak on their behalf it's unlikely it will ever be these bozos.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    LOL ... I have advocated the Law. Show me an Unconstitutional Law regarding permits, curfews, etc. Being as you are a Constitutional Scholar and all.
    Read the 1st amendment. It's pretty clear.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Yes I know the Supreme Court ruled in favor of permits. Doesn't mean that they were right to do so.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Please answer the question before you ask one.
    By answering my question you have the answer to yours.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It doesn't?? If Rosa Parks were part of a mob do you feel her name would be so revered today? Perhaps you should take a moment to consider that.
    Compared to MLK her name isn't that revered. Hell, MLK has an official day in his name, does Rosa Parks? And MLK was a part of a "mob".


    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Non fact based generalities is what I expected and that's just what I got. Little wonder this chorus of chanters gets little attention apart from the disruptions they make for real people and the garbage and damage they leave behind them. If 99% of the people need someone to speak on their behalf it's unlikely it will ever be these bozos.
    Non fact based? Really? Do you not know what has happened in the last 1 1/2 decades? Do you really deny that it was partially Wall Streets fault for the recession? Do you deny that the rich got richer during the recession while the rest of the people, especially the middle class got poorer? Do you deny these facts?
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    At this point, your solution would pre-suppose that:

    1. There are already laws on the books to provide for such fines.

    2. Such laws are able to be applied retroactively.

    If neither of these are true, then that is no solution for what has already occurred. Now...I suppose it's possible that these two conditions could become reality in the future, but that means that the liberal government of LA would have to change. Not likely, imo.


    I do agree with you that lawlessness should not be allowed, but that position should have been taken by LA from day one. I'm afraid that now...the City of LA is SOL.
    Try each for their lawlessness and fine them as much as possible. Jail time would be cool too.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

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    When Parks refused to give up her seat, a police officer arrested her. As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked, "Why do you push us around?" The officer's response as she remembered it was, "I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."[18] She later said, "I only knew that, as I was being arrested, that it was the very last time that I would ever ride in humiliation of this kind..."[1]



    Why am I not surprised that a Conservative would fail basic African-American history?
    I believe it is you who failed. She did not resist arrest. She went as soon as the officer said she was arrested. And it is American history.

    In the book, Bearing the Cross, she says, "So the moment he said I was under arrest I stood up."

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Read the 1st amendment. It's pretty clear.



    Yes I know the Supreme Court ruled in favor of permits. Doesn't mean that they were right to do so.
    So call your local prosecuter ! Call your Congress-person ! Call the newspaper !! YOu just realized that these laws are Unconstitutional, as its "pretty clear" and stuff !!

    You will be famous !!

    Or maybe a putz ..... but call them all and find out !!

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Try each for their lawlessness and fine them as much as possible. Jail time would be cool too.
    I agree...but that should have been done from the get go. Kind of useless to close the barn door after the horses have run.
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