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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The problem appears to be that many of these 'peaceful protesters' are making a huge mess, a problem related directly to them and which has nothing to do with the Constitution. By attempting to make the claim that turning city streets into waste sites or deterring people from going about their normal routines diminishes the Constitution and those who would want to protect it.

    Not claiming responsibility for your personal actions, or the group with whom you're involved, seems a natural inclination for those who feel that the government is responsible for their behavior and will have a temper tantrum when they dont get their way.

    This trivialization of the Constitution does no one any good over the long term. It is worthy of greater respect.
    I can't believe you wrote that.

    If the protesters are making a mess, ****ing write a goddamned law against making a mess and then charge the responsible individuals with a ****ing crime. Foisting responsibility for the actions of a few onto an informally gathered group says that informal groups are not allowed to assemble if anyone ever has the means and the motive to run a false flag operation. That's a ****ing death blow to the freedom of assembly.

    Trivializing the Constitution is EXACTLY what you are doing.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    I can't believe you wrote that.

    If the protesters are making a mess, ****ing write a goddamned law against making a mess and then charge the responsible individuals with a ****ing crime. Foisting responsibility for the actions of a few onto an informally gathered group says that informal groups are not allowed to assemble if anyone ever has the means and the motive to run a false flag operation. That's a ****ing death blow to the freedom of assembly.

    Trivializing the Constitution is EXACTLY what you are doing.
    Very scary isn't it that American citizens on this forum (at least they claim to be), are against or angry at their fellow country men for having the guts to go out in the cold and let their grievances with what is going on in their own country be known. If Protesting in the United States Of America is looked down upon and virtually ignored by our media and government, why are American Soldiers going half way across the world because some other foreeign country is looking down upon their protesters and we want them to protest and air their grievances but we find our own protesters muzzled, mistreated, and inprisoned. A very crazy world were living in.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well that's typical. "it's your fault that we cost you money".
    Can we all sue W. and Dick for the fake war in Iraq? That was costly, too.

    I'd be happy just to get the money back and pay down the debt.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post

    No it is not. Our Constitution is based upon peace. Shooting up a park and people is not peaceful.
    Damaging public spaces,turning areas into crime scenes,harassing businesses and schoolkids and many other things are the opposite of peaceful.


    While those in your links were not these protesters certainly are...

    Blocking police,trying to prevent police from leaving,resisting arrest and preventing them from doing their job is not peaceful.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so the more realistic estimate of costs are....



    Clearly a politically propagandist move to allege the $7.5 Mil...the more realistic figure is still quite a bit of money...Who should pay for that?


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    The article notes that even that figure is suspect. That aside it's the big picture. I note over and over that our rights are not free. Would you have made the Little Rock Nine pay for the added law enforcement costs?

    Also, this huge, I'll use lie here since it's documented as one, this huge lie as far as costs is nothing more than an effort on the part of government to squash speech and protest they do not like. So, this is one area everyone should be glad that we can pay the costs.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How so?........
    If you aren't even going to read your own links...........

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    I can't believe you wrote that.

    If the protesters are making a mess, ****ing write a goddamned law against making a mess and then charge the responsible individuals with a ****ing crime. Foisting responsibility for the actions of a few onto an informally gathered group says that informal groups are not allowed to assemble if anyone ever has the means and the motive to run a false flag operation. That's a ****ing death blow to the freedom of assembly.

    Trivializing the Constitution is EXACTLY what you are doing.
    We do have such laws. Plenty of them. While we may not be able to find those who can be fined in this particular incident, we ad Occutards and Obamavilles all over this great land that were as cesspools of debris, human and garbage.

    Protest does not require that one trash the joint.

    Now let's see which political candidates seek the Occutard endorsement.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If you aren't even going to read your own links...........
    apdst just self pwn4g3d himself and doesn't even get it.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The article notes that even that figure is suspect.

    What would be suspect about the second figure? I can believe that there were $300K plus in costs associated with the union tantrum.

    That aside it's the big picture. I note over and over that our rights are not free.
    Neither is a Big Mac at Mickey D's, but I don't expect you to buy one for me.

    Would you have made the Little Rock Nine pay for the added law enforcement costs?
    Are you really comparing Public sector Union temper tantrums to the civil rights struggle of the 60's? lol Come on man.....Not even close.

    Also, this huge, I'll use lie here since it's documented as one, this huge lie as far as costs is nothing more than an effort on the part of government to squash speech and protest they do not like.
    What do you suppose that the costs were in WI?

    So, this is one area everyone should be glad that we can pay the costs.
    But we can't afford costs like this. we are broke.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What would be suspect about the second figure? I can believe that there were $300K plus in costs associated with the union tantrum.
    I'm just quoting the article that was greatfully posted for us. But let me give a possibility. A police officer gets paid $200 a day. Since he was used that day for traffic control his wages get added in even though he would have been paid that day anyway.

    Neither is a Big Mac at Mickey D's, but I don't expect you to buy one for me.
    I've somehow overlooked the Big Mac amendment.

    Are you really comparing Public sector Union temper tantrums to the civil rights struggle of the 60's? lol Come on man.....Not even close.
    You DO NOT get to pick and choose what is valid and what is not valid protest. Do you really think you do? You really need to take a class on the Constitution. Not only do we have a right to protest what we feel is wrong we also have equal protection. If you are not going to charge one group for the costs of protecting their rights you can not charge another group.

    What do you suppose that the costs were in WI?
    I have no idea as they are irrelevant to me.

    But we can't afford costs like this. we are broke.

    j-mac
    We are even more broke when we decide that we can not defend our Constitutional rights. This isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to what the government is still providing Wall Street.

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