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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But you are putting a price on the right to protest. A right is something that the people have freely. Money is not required to exercise any right. That includes charging people for incidental damages. Putting a price on the ability of someone to protest is no different than when the Democrats tried to put requirements on the right to vote at elections in order to deter blacks from voting.
    No, I'm not. I'm putting a price on damaging public property.

    Show me the part of the Constitution that protects the right to damage public property.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    There is a Constitutional right to protest. I've pointed out many times that our rights are not always free nor pretty. There is no Constitutional right to have your investment bank saved by the government with taxpayers money when you screw it royally up.
    Right, but...Not the right to damage public property in the process!!!!!

    Damn!!! Why is this so hard for some folks?!?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

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    Depends on the reason that permit was declined. I'm not aware that those permits are declined, without a damn good reason. Maybe you can show us some examples of that.
    Local Tea Party organizers are threatening to sue the city of Atlanta, saying Mayor Kasim Reed has given special treatment to Occupy Atlanta protesters.

    Atlanta Tea Party co-founder Julianne Thompson told Channel 2 Action News that the group, which supports limited taxes and reduced government deficits, has made a request in writing after being denied permission to hold an event downtown because city officials said there was too much red tape and cost involved.


    Or in other words, because the city officials simply can not be bothered.

    The Tea Party members say Reed should grant them a special executive order — as he did for Occupy Atlanta — allowing an outdoor event last past 11 p.m.

    Reed gave a brief response Tuesday. “I think we’ll handle it on a case-by-case basis,” he said.


    Tea Party, denied permit for “cost” & red tape, wants same treatment as OWS | Flopping Aces

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you damage public property during your protest, you're damn right you should have to pay up. It's only right. Don't you think?

    Why should the taxpayers have to pay for your shanannigans?

    We hear the occutards rail about banks getting bailouts, yet they don't mind blowing a million taxpayer dollars cleaning up a mess that they created. Hypocrisy much?
    Agreed to all. At this point, we are debating folks who are ignorant of the Law, and are espousing mob rule. It is the hypocrisy of liberalism, and it is more constant than the sun rising in the East.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right, but...Not the right to damage public property in the process!!!!!

    Damn!!! Why is this so hard for some folks?!?
    It's been noted over and over that if someone damaged the fountain, arrest them.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It is when you unnecessarily damage public property.

    Why is that so hard to grasp?
    But that is not what the OP is about. The money that they want to sue for is for the cost of raiding and imprisoning etc etc. The quote in the OP says that they want to sue for what the protest cost the city which was "$2.35 million, not counting repairs to the lawn and fountain outside City Hall, according to a report issued Friday...."

    Now if the damage to the lawn and the fountain was done maliciously then yes someone should be charged for destruction of property as that is not a peaceful act. However if it was done on accident or through general use then it should not be charged to anyone but the taxpayers. And those alone would not cost that much. Hell, I could do it for under $5k.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Agreed to all. At this point, we are debating folks who are ignorant of the Law, and are espousing mob rule. It is the hypocrisy of liberalism, and it is more constant than the sun rising in the East.
    I have yet to see you post a law which prohibits people from protesting at 2AM. If I am so "ignorant" of the law then by all means prove it to me. Show me that law.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Go violate a curfew. Have your lawyer send us a postcard.
    Show me a curfew law which affects my right to protest....or hell, effects me period.
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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Local Tea Party organizers are threatening to sue the city of Atlanta, saying Mayor Kasim Reed has given special treatment to Occupy Atlanta protesters.

    Atlanta Tea Party co-founder Julianne Thompson told Channel 2 Action News that the group, which supports limited taxes and reduced government deficits, has made a request in writing after being denied permission to hold an event downtown because city officials said there was too much red tape and cost involved.


    Or in other words, because the city officials simply can not be bothered.

    The Tea Party members say Reed should grant them a special executive order — as he did for Occupy Atlanta — allowing an outdoor event last past 11 p.m.

    Reed gave a brief response Tuesday. “I think we’ll handle it on a case-by-case basis,” he said.


    Tea Party, denied permit for “cost” & red tape, wants same treatment as OWS | Flopping Aces
    Ok, I agree that those folks had their rights violated by the permitting process.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: L.A. might sue Occupy L.A. protestors for financial damages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But that is not what the OP is about. The money that they want to sue for is for the cost of raiding and imprisoning etc etc. The quote in the OP says that they want to sue for what the protest cost the city which was "$2.35 million, not counting repairs to the lawn and fountain outside City Hall, according to a report issued Friday...."

    Now if the damage to the lawn and the fountain was done maliciously then yes someone should be charged for destruction of property as that is not a peaceful act. However if it was done on accident or through general use then it should not be charged to anyone but the taxpayers. And those alone would not cost that much. Hell, I could do it for under $5k.
    So, now you're saying that if someone breaks the law, there shouldn't be some kind of fine to go along with it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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