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Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

Why isn't it? That would be first and only assumption and thought - it would be HARD for someone to convince me otherwise. Maybe I should be the one my feelings about what's abusive to my children and not you?
Was the child being harmed or injured? No? Merely being in a bag is not abuse.Now if the child had a fear of being in dark enclosed spaces, or even crying then you might have a point.

Her son was IN TROUBLE. They called her TO school to come and GET him. It's not like they were on the playground having a good time or something - he was tied up in a bag and in the middle of a hallway waiting for his mom to come and get him.

They picked up the phone - dialed her number - talked to her -a nd told her to come and get him because he was out of control. She arrived: found him holed up in a bag in the middle of a hallway and your response is "oh - maybe they were playing"

The school didn't have a lycra bag to deal with him. In their minds it like they found the next best thing.

Can you not possible see how this is NOT PLAYTIME?

Was the kid crying, was the kid traumatized?

Geesh - your stupidity and blatant wishy washiness is ruining my Christmas . . . I'm out of here.

You've got issues.
You acting like a bat **** insane overeating woman is saying that I am wishy washy and stupid?
 
You obviously arent getting the intent of the bag. It isnt used for autistic kids...it is used for out of control raging type kids, autistic or otherwise.

No, actually, as someone posted earlier, there is a therapy bag that isn't used for behavior problems at all, but rather sensory issues - but a kid might find it calming. We don't know if that's the kind of bag that was used though, or exactly why.
 
No, actually, as someone posted earlier, there is a therapy bag that isn't used for behavior problems at all, but rather sensory issues - but a kid might find it calming. We don't know if that's the kind of bag that was used though, or exactly why.

Many times with autistic kids their "behavior problems" are sensory issues. They aren't being ornery just because it's fun. They're over-stimulated and need some help calming down.
 
You obviously arent getting the intent of the bag. It isnt used for autistic kids...it is used for out of control raging type kids, autistic or otherwise.

What? Where did the school say that?
 
Then don't bring him up in a discussion about one.

Are you for ****ing real? I never used my uncle as a platform for modern education reform.

Tying up kids in a duffle bag is wrong. Unfortunately, we are discussing this issue with you defending this practice.
 
You obviously arent getting the intent of the bag. It isnt used for autistic kids...it is used for out of control raging type kids, autistic or otherwise.

I understand it perfectly. However, what I don't understand is your response. According to you, I am a terrorist. Why would you correspond with a terrorist?

I would appreciate it that you wouldn't correspond with me.
 
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I understand it perfectly. However, what I don't understand is your response. According to you, I am a terrorist. Why would you correspond with a terrorist?

I would appreciate it that you wouldn't correspond with me.
A terrorist? Bwua ha ha ha!!!! How on earth do you make that connection? A histrionic drama queen...sure...THAT is now clear...but a terrorist???
 
A terrorist? Bwua ha ha ha!!!! How on earth do you make that connection? A histrionic drama queen...sure...THAT is now clear...but a terrorist???

You are the one who assigned that label. I would appreciate it if you didn't correspond with me.

No contact, no drama. It is simple as that.

Now, don't respond.
 
What? Where did the school say that?
Thats why I said I would like to hear more about the story. A green 'bag' is commonly used as an adolescent restraint for out of control individuals in detention centers. I have seen where others have said that what was some sort of a sensory deprivation tool. I dont know which was used here. Either would be ineffective for many autistic kids as they are extremely sensitive even to certain types of fabrics and sensations.
 
You are the one who assigned that label. I would appreciate it if you didn't correspond with me.

No contact, no drama. It is simple as that.

Now, don't respond.
27 words...wouldnt it have just been easier to not respond? Or put me on ignore? Please try that option...Id hate to say something and hurt your dainty feelings. DQ...
 
27 words...wouldnt it have just been easier to not respond? Or put me on ignore? Please try that option...Id hate to say something and hurt your dainty feelings. DQ...

There is no reason to ignore you. However, I would feel that someone who labeled me as a terrorists would avoid contact with me

Your persistence to make contact with a "terrorist" is most peculiar. Why would you want to have contact with me?
 
There is no reason to ignore you. However, I would feel that someone who labeled me as a terrorists would avoid contact with me

Your persistence to make contact with a "terrorist" is most peculiar. Why would you want to have contact with me?
Please show me where I labelled you a terrorist and I will apologize to you mightily. Not a terrorist...but definitely a drama queen.
 
Please show me where I labelled you a terrorist and I will apologize to you mightily. Not a terrorist...but definitely a drama queen.

You labeled me a terrorist with regards to my foreign policy view. It's really no big deal that we have a foreign policy disagreement. However, this is not the time or place to discuss foreign policy.

I find it odd that someone who feels so strongly against me would correspond with me. Unfortunately, you feel like you can go around and label people terrorists and then have a civil conversation with them. Your arrogance is strong.

Plus, you are a belittling asshat in which I have no desire to have a meaningful conversation with.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Cease with the personal attacks and stop acting like children.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Cease with the personal attacks and stop acting like children.

Put them in a bag hugh!

(yeah I will probably get dinged, but it was worth it)
 
Was the child being harmed or injured? No? Merely being in a bag is not abuse.Now if the child had a fear of being in dark enclosed spaces, or even crying then you might have a point.



The school didn't have a lycra bag to deal with him. In their minds it like they found the next best thing.



Was the kid crying, was the kid traumatized?


You acting like a bat **** insane overeating woman is saying that I am wishy washy and stupid?

You're touching on this 'was he crying and traumatized' - I think that's the whole problem, here . . . Special Needs children are treated differently often because people assume that since they react different - it's ok. That does NOT make anything 'ok'

We have no clue, really. We weren't there. Maybe he cried for a long time, we don't know. . . maybe he was traumatized. Why do you think he wasn't? Why do you think that's the line on this? I'm not cuing into that at all - that has no bearing on this. My son is emotionally stunted - doesn't mean I can treat him like less of a person because he doesn't respond the same way 'normal' kids do. There are many situations which are considered abuse or neglect in which the child isn't traumatized nor do they cry about it - but it's wrong regardless.
 
You labeled me a terrorist with regards to my foreign policy view. It's really no big deal that we have a foreign policy disagreement. However, this is not the time or place to discuss foreign policy.

I find it odd that someone who feels so strongly against me would correspond with me. Unfortunately, you feel like you can go around and label people terrorists and then have a civil conversation with them. Your arrogance is strong.

Plus, you are a belittling asshat in which I have no desire to have a meaningful conversation with.
I truly cant ever remember corresponding with you and I highly doubt I ever labelled you a terrorist. I would be interested in seeing the exchange which has you feeling that way.
 
A lot of people can think rational and do not let their emotions control them too much. They would at least find out why first before swinging their fists and risk going to jail over a misunderstanding.

I never talked about throwing punches and going to jail... Don't get carried away here. I talked about not being calm and this has nothing to do with letting your emotions control you. I can be angry and still make rational and coherent arguments with a person. Maybe that is just me.

Tying your child up in a bag is hardly a "misunderstanding". I would demand my kid be out of the bag instantly and that they apologize. If the teacher/staff did not act quickly enough to get my kid out I would move them out of the way the fastest way possible and get my kid out even if that means putting the teacher to the floor. That is about as violent as I would get and that would only be to save my child from a violent adult causing them harm. Once my child was safe I would also call the police on the teacher/staff that did it.
 
Both, as long as I was told about it first and it seemed to work.

Oh, if I missed the part where the parent knew before hand then that is my bad. If that is the case then being calm would be the reasonable thing to be...
 
Oh, if I missed the part where the parent knew before hand then that is my bad. If that is the case then being calm would be the reasonable thing to be...

She didn't know they were putting him in the bag - I think her lack of knowledge is another issue being highlighted: parents don't ask enough questions when it comes to their children and how they're being cared for when they're not around . . . according to her in the article she sort of knew they used a bag as part of punishment and just assumed he rolled around on the bag like a sensory-stimulus to refocus him mentally.

I think she's stupid - if someone told me 'we used a bag when your son acted out.' I'd immediately ask "what do you mean, how did you use it?"

I'm not only taken aback at their treatment of children - but at the aprents and their overwhelming lack of knowledge and involvement.

Geesh - just wow people.
 
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She didn't know they were putting him in the bag - I think her lack of knowledge is another issue being highlighted: parents don't ask enough questions when it comes to their children and how they're being cared for when they're not around . . . according to her in the article she sort of knew they used a bag as part of punishment and just assumed he rolled around on the bag like a sensory-stimulus to refocus him mentally.

I think she's stupid - if someone told me 'we used a bag when your son acted out.' I'd immediately ask "what do you mean, how did you use it?"

I'm not only taken aback at their treatment of children - but at the aprents and their overwhelming lack of knowledge and involvement.

Geesh - just wow people.

Well summed up...
 
If I had kids and someone did that to my child? I would go crazy and kill some folks. Just wrong :(
 
One of my kids has aspergers and my wife is a special ed teacher who routinely deals with autistic children and one thing should be known to all.

Often autistic children have sensory issues and can easily become over or understimulated (each kid is unique in this area). Putting children in a bag is actually a form of therapy.

So lets not rush to judgement about this.

However, if the school did something like this without the parents knowledge and consent, this is against federal regulations and the IEP process. So its a huge no-no and that teacher's certification should be looked at very closely.

Well I tell you this: forget all this shrink crap and how it calms someone down cause they may feel as if they were in the womb or whatever bull**** babble they are calling it: kids should not be placed in bags. Period. Folks can quote any all bs about this working and I call it degrading as hell and abuse at most!

Reminds me of blanket training babies and wrapping children up in blankets and then beating them! How the hell would you feel if someone tossed YOU in a garbage bag or ANY kind of bag to sooth you? Hell no. There are better ways and this bag therapy is crap. And degrading and insulting and wrong wrong wrong. You do not place humans in bags to calm them down. esp ones that cover the head.
 
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If I had kids and someone did that to my child? I would go crazy and kill some folks.

As usual, you sound reasonable...
 
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