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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    Having kids is alot more complicated than that.
    Oh... you don't havea trail of bodies in your past due to people messing with your kids. We are very different parents, apparently.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Looks like those parents will be pretty rich soon!

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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    yes, we diminish the learning opportunity of those who are well behaved to enable the poorly behaved to be in their midst makes a lot of sense Attachment 67120300 this well meaning - but poorly constructed public policy - ended ability grouping Obama came to town this year to recognize a principal because of her school's consistent progress that principal - of a primarily ESL student body - insists on ability grouping her peers, who continue to expect their teachers to teach at the rate of the slowest member of the school room in their own least restrictive schools did not receive such recognition, because those classes do not achieve the same high academic performance if we value inclusion above educational attainment, then what you advocate is the way to go clearly, we have different aspirations
    This is probably not exclusive to Oregon, but a special resource aide can be requested for children who's needs exceed the teacher's capacity to teach all the kids. They teach according to an IEP and are there all or partial days, in the classroom or as in in Fiddy's link, a special room, thus allowing them to interact in a mainstream classroom without taking up inordinate amounts of the the teacher's time. I've been in several classrooms over the years where this was the case and the rest of the students were not impacted.

    Also, in our elementary schools, all kids were assessed and then for reading and math, they moved to another room or stayed and were taught at their specific level, regardless of grade. In this way, advanced students were taught at their level, while the not so advanced could be taught at theirs. It worked very well.

    I agree with mainstreaming as many of these kids as we can. First, because how do we know what they are capable of achieving without challenging them, as in the example of Fiddy's brother. If they are shuttered away to be taught with lowered expectations, they will never be given a chance to achieve their full potential. Secondly, they will grow into adults and without consistent exposure to mainstream expectations, they may not be able to cope with the larger world.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Paper or Plastic? Let's hope they had the environment in mind.

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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Oh... you don't havea trail of bodies in your past due to people messing with your kids. We are very different parents, apparently.
    Oh, I do - still, I have alot more than that. For instance, I have a few people who would be dead bodies, but instead are good friends of my kids due to my patience and ability to impart knowledge and understanding. That's a better outcome for everyone.
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    Paper or Plastic? Let's hope they had the environment in mind.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    I agree with mainstreaming as many of these kids as we can.
    The interesting, and frustrating, fact is that many parents of young kids with autism, unaware that mainstreaming is something that was fought for over many decades, now think it's bad. They think their kids need special help in their own classrooms. It's an interesting dynamic.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The interesting, and frustrating, fact is that many parents of young kids with autism, unaware that mainstreaming is something that was fought for over many decades, now think it's bad. They think their kids need special help in their own classrooms. It's an interesting dynamic.
    That is an interesting dynamic and one I'm unaware of. I guess the pendulum of public/parental opinion swings. I'd want them experiencing as much of the mainstream of society as possible, since they will be part of it (unless of course they are utterly without the ability to do so). The world can be cruel and insulating them then expecting them to function in it without preparation, is more cruel.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    Looks like those parents will be pretty rich soon!
    don't think so:
    "The employees of the Mercer County Public Schools are qualified professionals who treat students with respect and dignity while providing a safe and nurturing learning environment," Davis said in a statement.
    State education officials said they were investigating.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You're touching on this 'was he crying and traumatized' - I think that's the whole problem, here . . . Special Needs children are treated differently often because people assume that since they react different - it's ok. That does NOT make anything 'ok'
    A lot of normal kids are not wusses,so I do not think many of them would have reacted any different then that autistic kid who was in a duffel bag. If they were being teased while they were in the bag, have claustrophobia, or some kids were kicking the crap out of the kid while the kid was in the bag then I could see a child having a different reaction regardless if they are normal or are autistic.


    We have no clue, really. We weren't there. Maybe he cried for a long time, we don't know. . . maybe he was traumatized. Why do you think he wasn't? Why do you think that's the line on this?
    You do not think the parents would have told the news reporter their child was crying or that their child told them that he was crying,hurt or what ever?

    I'm not cuing into that at all - that has no bearing on this. My son is emotionally stunted - doesn't mean I can treat him like less of a person because he doesn't respond the same way 'normal' kids do. There are many situations which are considered abuse or neglect in which the child isn't traumatized nor do they cry about it - but it's wrong regardless.
    Putting someone in a bag has nothing to do with dehumanizing someone. You are overreacting. Children do all kinds of weird ****.
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