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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    Having kids is alot more complicated than that.
    Oh... you don't havea trail of bodies in your past due to people messing with your kids. We are very different parents, apparently.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Looks like those parents will be pretty rich soon!

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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Paper or Plastic? Let's hope they had the environment in mind.

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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    Oh... you don't havea trail of bodies in your past due to people messing with your kids. We are very different parents, apparently.
    Oh, I do - still, I have alot more than that. For instance, I have a few people who would be dead bodies, but instead are good friends of my kids due to my patience and ability to impart knowledge and understanding. That's a better outcome for everyone.
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    Paper or Plastic? Let's hope they had the environment in mind.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    I agree with mainstreaming as many of these kids as we can.
    The interesting, and frustrating, fact is that many parents of young kids with autism, unaware that mainstreaming is something that was fought for over many decades, now think it's bad. They think their kids need special help in their own classrooms. It's an interesting dynamic.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

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    The interesting, and frustrating, fact is that many parents of young kids with autism, unaware that mainstreaming is something that was fought for over many decades, now think it's bad. They think their kids need special help in their own classrooms. It's an interesting dynamic.
    That is an interesting dynamic and one I'm unaware of. I guess the pendulum of public/parental opinion swings. I'd want them experiencing as much of the mainstream of society as possible, since they will be part of it (unless of course they are utterly without the ability to do so). The world can be cruel and insulating them then expecting them to function in it without preparation, is more cruel.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Looks like those parents will be pretty rich soon!
    don't think so:
    "The employees of the Mercer County Public Schools are qualified professionals who treat students with respect and dignity while providing a safe and nurturing learning environment," Davis said in a statement.
    State education officials said they were investigating.
    Mom: School put my autistic son in a bag - US news - Life - msnbc.com
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You're touching on this 'was he crying and traumatized' - I think that's the whole problem, here . . . Special Needs children are treated differently often because people assume that since they react different - it's ok. That does NOT make anything 'ok'
    A lot of normal kids are not wusses,so I do not think many of them would have reacted any different then that autistic kid who was in a duffel bag. If they were being teased while they were in the bag, have claustrophobia, or some kids were kicking the crap out of the kid while the kid was in the bag then I could see a child having a different reaction regardless if they are normal or are autistic.


    We have no clue, really. We weren't there. Maybe he cried for a long time, we don't know. . . maybe he was traumatized. Why do you think he wasn't? Why do you think that's the line on this?
    You do not think the parents would have told the news reporter their child was crying or that their child told them that he was crying,hurt or what ever?

    I'm not cuing into that at all - that has no bearing on this. My son is emotionally stunted - doesn't mean I can treat him like less of a person because he doesn't respond the same way 'normal' kids do. There are many situations which are considered abuse or neglect in which the child isn't traumatized nor do they cry about it - but it's wrong regardless.
    Putting someone in a bag has nothing to do with dehumanizing someone. You are overreacting. Children do all kinds of weird ****.
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    Re: Parents Angry After School Put Autistic Son in Bag

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    That is an interesting dynamic and one I'm unaware of. I guess the pendulum of public/parental opinion swings. I'd want them experiencing as much of the mainstream of society as possible, since they will be part of it (unless of course they are utterly without the ability to do so). The world can be cruel and insulating them then expecting them to function in it without preparation, is more cruel.
    Agree, but how to get there is the question. Autistic kids won't necessarily learn that from experience. They may need intensive instruction on how to socialize before they actually do it. And they still get this instruction in public school, just not in the main classroom.

    The truth is that "mainstreaming" can be alot of different things, from giving the kids all the same experiences that a regular kid gets in a classroom to sending them to a regular school, but then having them pulled out for special ed classes. Whatever works best for each kid.
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