Given that the President signed the PR tax extension today reflection on the past month reveals his reversal. It has been argued in this thread that the memory of the public is short enough that this week’s events will be forgotten when debate starts up in February. Consider the President made this statement on December 7:
"Any effort to try to tie Keystone to the payroll tax cut I will reject," Obama told reporters after a meeting with the prime minister of Canada.
Obama threatens payroll tax veto over Keystone provision - Los Angeles Times
So how many remember? Did he hold true to his word? I’m sure it will be argued that he meant a ‘forced approval’ but as Karl stated the pipeline is approved by default if the decision is not made in 60 days.
Wait a minute...Assertions? What the **** are you talking about? I gave an opinion, another poster chimed in with some pablum of social responsibility that I must hold, and I gave an opinion. What assertion must I back up to be acceptable to you? Not that I really care if you accept anything or not, just wondering.
Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville
yes, but not in the public eye. seniors across America are convinced they are only "getting their money back" and "getting what they paid for". We have to break that if we are to fiscally survive.That happened several decades ago, didn't it, when Johnson put the SS "trust fund" into the general fund in order to fund a war and the "great society" at the same time? It has been a de facto tax on the middle class and working poor ever since.
naturally. It's a real pickle for them, but that is because portions of their base have mutually excluding goals.Oh, that makes sense. They're engaged in partisan gamesmanship, as usual. The Democrats can't possibly make a decision on the Keystone project, as they would either anger the environmentalists or labor, depending on how they decided, so they want to wait until after the election to decide.
sure there is. what we can't do is agree on how to pay for this tax cut. there are plenty of ways to offset the added burden to the treasury.and, of course, no one can figure out how to pay for yet another tax cut. There is no way to pay for another tax cut.
and has been for years if not decades.the Congress is operating in Never Never land mode.
he wins because he has made the optics work for him. amazingly, he, his media allies, and Senate Republicans have all conspired to make House Republicans look like they are in favor of not extending a middle class tax cut because in fact they wanted to extend it more. as I understand it, his favorability has gotten a slight bump on it, even as republicans have dipped.Obama wins? He wins because he doesn't have to make a decision that would lose points regardless of what he decides until after the election, is that how he wins?
yup. Can we please just go ahead and pass Bowles-Simpson tax reform? 1 Trillion in added revenue for Dems, lower, flatter rates for Republicans.Meanwhile, the country loses. What a sorry situation.
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“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
The bottom line is that the Republicans in the House, for whatever reason, voted down a bill that had been supported by 38 GOP senators and negotiated by the Minority Leader.
The fact that Boehner had to reverse the House's position within days is a reflection of his own party's reaction to the gross mishandling of the situation.
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The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016
Republicans have no problem with increasing taxation and regulations. This idea that they are antithetical to taxes and regulations is a big ****ing laugh that borders on insulting informed citizens.
Please stop your lies and insults.
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