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Thread: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

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    At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    yesterday it was, today it isn't...

    in the wake of today's bombing, president obama ostensibly can't just wave a confident hand and say the war is over.

    if he could he would have wished saddam into the cornfield as a senator and fixed syria today.

    joe biden's dream of three iraqs is coming to fruition, and we're apparently buds with the taliban. why would the west point generals know more about war and peace than a community organiser ??



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    re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by washamericom View Post
    yesterday it was, today it isn't...

    in the wake of today's bombing, president obama ostensibly can't just wave a confident hand and say the war is over.

    if he could he would have wished saddam into the cornfield as a senator and fixed syria today.

    joe biden's dream of three iraqs is coming to fruition, and we're apparently buds with the taliban. why would the west point generals know more about war and peace than a community organiser ??

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    Bush offered them democracy and Obama gave them nearly 3 years of his time. They'd rather blow each other up in true tribal form. Iraq is the problem of Iraqis now. Bring our boys and girls home.

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    re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    It's their country. If they want to blow each other up that's their problem.

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    re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Troop withdrawal by December 31 of this year was a bilateral agreement signed in 2008. The war is over due to that agreement, not to an Obama fiat.

    Of course, if Iraq remains peaceful, then the Republicans will point to that fact as an indication that it was a Republican CIC who brought a successful end to that conflict, while the Democrats will claim it was all Obama. If, on the other hand, Iran invades or the Taliban takes over, then the Republicans will blame Obama, while the Democrats point to the withdrawal agreement of 2008.

    But, come what may, the fact is that the withdrawal was already agreed to before Obama became CIC.
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    re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Troop withdrawal by December 31 of this year was a bilateral agreement signed in 2008. The war is over due to that agreement, not to an Obama fiat.

    Of course, if Iraq remains peaceful, then the Republicans will point to that fact as an indication that it was a Republican CIC who brought a successful end to that conflict, while the Democrats will claim it was all Obama. If, on the other hand, Iran invades or the Taliban takes over, then the Republicans will blame Obama, while the Democrats point to the withdrawal agreement of 2008.

    But, come what may, the fact is that the withdrawal was already agreed to before Obama became CIC.
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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Bush offered them democracy and Obama gave them nearly 3 years of his time. They'd rather blow each other up in true tribal form. Iraq is the problem of Iraqis now. Bring our boys and girls home.

    Now.
    It took some of the smartest men in history 12 years to form a government, that we now call the United States of America.

    You really expect these clowns to do it in less time?

    But, hey! Am I the only one that isn't surprised that the bad guys went on the down low, until U.S. forces moved out, then decided to get off the hook?
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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It took some of the smartest men in history 12 years to form a government, that we now call the United States of America.

    You really expect these clowns to do it in less time?

    But, hey! Am I the only one that isn't surprised that the bad guys went on the down low, until U.S. forces moved out, then decided to get off the hook?
    Eh? What's that you say?

    Sorry, apdst, I can't hear you over the groaning creaks of the aging American infrastructure, the protesters in the streets and the politicians' advocating austerity measures. You'll have to speak up and make sure your head isn't obstructing any excretory functions before making suggestions on where we should spend billions of dollars.

    The average American only gave a **** about Iraq when they believed Bush's lies about them being an eminent threat, but given your history here, I'm sure you'd got a well developed and logically sound case that will sway them to your viewpoint.

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    So glad that the Obama Administration failed to negotiate a simple SOFA agreement. well done, Mr Smartest President Ever.

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    Eh? What's that you say?

    Sorry, apdst, I can't hear you over the groaning creaks of the aging American infrastructure, the protesters in the streets and the politicians' advocating austerity measures. You'll have to speak up and make sure your head isn't obstructing any excretory functions before making suggestions on where we should spend billions of dollars.
    What aging infrastructure?

    Protetstor? Oh, uou must mean the protestors that trash out public parks and demand more government handouts because they too stupid, or lazy to find a job.

    While you're whining about government spending, you might want to get your boy in check, lest you appear the hypocirite. Solyndra ring a bell?

    The average American only gave a **** about Iraq when they believed Bush's lies about them being an eminent threat, but given your history here, I'm sure you'd got a well developed and logically sound case that will sway them to your viewpoint.
    The average American understands that 4,000 casualties are better than 400,000.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What aging infrastructure?
    Oh please, are you kidding me? Do a simple google search on "America's aging infrastructure" and you will see that roads, bridges, water/sewer lines, electric grid, etc are all sub par and are in need of repair and upgrade.

    How about we fix OUR country before we try nation building ok?

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