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Thread: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Sorry, I must have been out sick when my geography teacher explained that Iraq and the Middle East are one and the same.

    Or was it the day that my global studies teacher explained that Islam and the Middle East are one and the same?
    It's all rather complicated. Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable on another thread.

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's all rather complicated. Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable on another thread.
    It's not complicated at all -- you put words in other people's mouths, then respond to those words, then call that an argument and label yourself the victor.

    Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable doing that with someone else.
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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Sorry, I must have been out sick when my geography teacher explained that Iraq and the Middle East are one and the same.

    Or was it the day that my global studies teacher explained that Islam and the Middle East are one and the same?
    Currently, the threat from Islamist terrorists is based in the Middle East. Or, perhaps Southwest Asia would be more PC.
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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Lancet will forever be bogus no matter how many anti war proponents during those years want it to be true. The bottom line is that most people that get out there and use language like 'hundreds of thousands', or troops 'slaying' civilians are IMHO just over the top mouth foamers that can't bring themselves to discuss Iraq reasonably largely because of their blind hate toward George W. Bush.


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    You don't need lancet to know too many people died in Iraq. Fact is the number is larger than counts show because no one counted. Still, IBC gives a 100K. Isn't that enough to know the cost was high? And IBC admits they did not count much early on and that much was missed. Nor does it account for deaths due to things war brings other than by bullets and bombs. Nor does it count those displaced.

    So, at what number do you stop making excuses and admit a hell of a lot of people died and suffered? Where's the cut off at?

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It's not complicated at all -- you put words in other people's mouths, then respond to those words, then call that an argument and label yourself the victor.

    Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable doing that with someone else.
    I don't want this to be one of those "you started it" arguments but when you tell me what your teacher told you, in reference to nothing, that Iraq and the Middle East are not the same, then the whole thing unwinds.

    Nowhere did I make the claim that Iraq and the Middle East was one and the same. Nowhere. And I would never do so. Also nowhere did I say that Islam and the Middle East are one and the same. I would never do that either.

    Now you are making the ridiculous claim that I am the one putting words in your mouth. Maybe you should ask for clarification from that teacher of yours.

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Fact is the number is larger than counts show because no one counted.
    Another Boo "Fact".

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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Another Boo "Fact".
    Which is probably correct, and if it isn't, so what? Was over a hundred thousand dead, with all of the widows and orphans that implies, plus unknown thousands more injured, really worth it?
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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You don't need lancet to know too many people died in Iraq. Fact is the number is larger than counts show because no one counted. Still, IBC gives a 100K. Isn't that enough to know the cost was high? And IBC admits they did not count much early on and that much was missed. Nor does it account for deaths due to things war brings other than by bullets and bombs. Nor does it count those displaced.

    So, at what number do you stop making excuses and admit a hell of a lot of people died and suffered? Where's the cut off at?
    Why is it that a discussion on something like this I should just take your word of what ever number you'd like to pull out of thin air to justify your meme, but in a discussion concerning something else I must provide multitudes of sourcing that you approve of documenting my assertions?

    Seems a little lopsided does it not?


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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Which is probably correct, and if it isn't, so what? Was over a hundred thousand dead, with all of the widows and orphans that implies, plus unknown thousands more injured, really worth it?
    Depends on what happens going forward. History will be the judge. That is not set in stone by the word of those whom have any agenda for, or against. And it is not determined within the time frame of current events.


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    Re: At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Depends on what happens going forward. History will be the judge. That is not set in stone by the word of those whom have any agenda for, or against. And it is not determined within the time frame of current events.


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    So, we'll have to wait and see what future historians have to say about the issue.

    If you were an Iraqi, and one of your relatives were among the dead, how would you feel about the American invasion today?
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