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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

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    A cop isn't "the government." If he did his job poorly, there is a right and a wrong way to handle it.
    People that carry out the law are indeed government.

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    People that carry out the law are indeed government.
    Okay. A cop isn't the person who presented, drafted, sponsored, voted, or signed legislation into effect. He enforces the laws that the representives we elected voted into existence. He isn't the one who decided we should have the Patriot Act or any other "invasion of privacy" law that currently exists. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that most cops don't go into the job thinking they get to defend the government's invasion into our privacy.

    This semantics game is ridiculous. You're arguing for the punishment of cops because you don't like what your elected officials did.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Okay. A cop isn't the person who presented, drafted, sponsored, voted, or signed legislation into effect. He enforces the laws that the representives we elected voted into existence. He isn't the one who decided we should have the Patriot Act or any other "invasion of privacy" law that currently exists. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that most cops don't go into the job thinking they get to defend the government's invasion into our privacy.

    This semantics game is ridiculous. You're arguing for the punishment of cops because you don't like what your elected officials did.
    It isn't semantics. They carry out the law without protest that violates the privacy of individuals. They are just as guilty as the party that voted it into existence.

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It isn't semantics. They carry out the law without protest that violates the privacy of individuals. They are just as guilty as the party that voted it into existence.
    Then we're guilty for voting for the people that voted for the bill, based on your logic.

    At the end of the day, this puts the lives of police officers at risk. Most police officers chose that profession because they want to do good. Most police officers are a helpful force in their communities. Putting them at risk over some stupid concept of "an eye for an eye" is...bitter and stupid, honestly.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Then we're guilty for voting for the people that voted for the bill, based on your logic.

    Many people are indeed. I however can say without question I didn't vote for one of those assholes that voted yes.

    At the end of the day, this puts the lives of police officers at risk. Most police officers chose that profession because they want to do good. Most police officers are a helpful force in their communities. Putting them at risk over some stupid concept of "an eye for an eye" is...bitter and stupid, honestly.
    It is not eye for an eye. It is this principle that I told you about before...

    How is it that the law permits the state to lawfully engage in actions which, if undertaken by individuals, would land them in jail?
    If it is lawful for them to violate our privacy we should have lawful authority to violate theirs. It is an argument of equality, not an argument of revenge. If they want their rights I expect them to maintain the importance of such a thing.

    Let me say this though, if you vote for those people again, you have offered yourself up in compliance with the actions taken by those individuals. It is up to you to live with it, not I and I do think you are just as guilty for doing it.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Then we're guilty for voting for the people that voted for the bill, based on your logic.

    At the end of the day, this puts the lives of police officers at risk. Most police officers chose that profession because they want to do good. Most police officers are a helpful force in their communities. Putting them at risk over some stupid concept of "an eye for an eye" is...bitter and stupid, honestly.
    It doesn't put anyone's life at risk. If someone commits a violent action, they go to jail, that includes if it's against police or their families. For all we know people will just write angry letters to those cops, and there's nothing legal stopping them from doing so. A cop's right to privacy is no less or more than mine. Their addresses are public record, as are their names and badge numbers.

    And anyway, some cops behaved abhorrently at the OWS protests. If they don't want to receive angry letters then maybe they should think about their ethics. You can't get away with jack booting people in the information age.

    If the government can monitor me, then I can monitor them. All is fair in love and war.

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    People that carry out the law are indeed government.
    They aren't government at home. Lame excuse for making it personal.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    It doesn't put anyone's life at risk. If someone commits a violent action, they go to jail, that includes if it's against police or their families. For all we know people will just write angry letters to those cops, and there's nothing legal stopping them from doing so. A cop's right to privacy is no less or more than mine. Their addresses are public record, as are their names and badge numbers.
    What's your real name and address? Post it here please. I want to send you an angry letter.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    They aren't government at home. Lame excuse for making it personal.
    Is the politician government at home? No. Are they still a Representative of government with an importance to the role and should be treated as such? Yes. Is the same true for cops? Yes.

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    A cop isn't "the government." If he did his job poorly, there is a right and a wrong way to handle it.
    cops are government entities.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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