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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    True, but in general if you're looking to target government, then government officials and buildings become valid. Timothy McVeigh got a bunch of kids because the government put a daycare in one of its government buildings. Was it good? Well actually that whole event wasn't good or defensibly; I'm not saying he was right here. Cops have kids, posting this could jeopardize them if people were actually taking the information for violent means; but that hasn't seemed to be the case yet, it's mostly limited to harassment.
    Even though I think it would be the wrong thing attacking the cops while on duty, I do understand your point that they put themselves in that danger while on duty. Just to me, posting their home information goes beyond a reasonable response.

    But how come there is so much outrage on this? Government itself does this to us all the time, and does use the information for violence and to violate our rights. People defend it. But if it's against the government, all of a sudden we should be outraged? Sorry, I am unsympathetic. Perhaps if the government treated us better, I would be more sympathetic to their plight; but they don't so I am not. They will reap what the sow, and this is just the start of that.
    I agree that the government has too much information on us, but people, generally, don't like public information published of the people that are suppose to protect us.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The cops aren't coming to my house and threatening me because I called Officer Joe a pig for harrassing me at 3am for "driving without a front plate". But posting the home addresses of cops online and linking them to OWS (whether they were their or not) gives free reign for the crazies (which obviously exist, based on this thread) to do just that...go to their houses and threaten them because of the actions of their "brethren".

    You can wax poetic about what the state does vs. what we do, but the intention here is to allow harm/harrassment to befall police officers, whether they did anything "wrong" or not.

    Having my private address on file is not the same as posting it publically online with a "this citizen done screwed up" tag, imploring people to come after me.
    It doesn't matter. The question and its logic behind it rings true.

    How is it that the law permits the state to lawfully engage in actions which, if undertaken by individuals, would land them in jail?
    Why does the government have the authority to violate our privacy but we do not have the right to violate theirs? The results of such actions are secondary. Still, there is no warrant behind the idea they do not wish harm on us with their actions as of late. If they wish to partake in such actions, they should expect and accept it in return.

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    For posting addresses? Is that even illegal? Government does well more than that to us for their own agencies. Think of the time and effort put forth for data mining and databasing our information. If anything, they should have included personal addresses to all politicians as well. They're well more at fault than the police.
    I guess you are right.Those that spy on the people should not have any of their personal information guarded.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I agree that the government has too much information on us, but people, generally, don't like public information published of the people that are suppose to protect us.
    While I certainly understand that, the government is not here to protect us. And that's something I believe people need to relearn pronto.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    ...so it's completely okay with you to go after a police officer in their home, while they're off duty, because you disagree with how they've done their job? That's basically what you're saying here.
    Ikari is a hard core anti-government type, who'd be the first one to dial 911 if he heard his bushes rustle in the dead of night.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    No one is going to a Cop's house to harass them. Phone calls and letters maybe, but those can be dealt with easily enough. If a released criminal wanted to do something to a Cop and his family while they were at home he wouldn't need Anonymous to get the address.

    This is just a message meant to tell the Cops that what they do is not in secret.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    ...so it's completely okay with you to go after a police officer in their home, while they're off duty, because you disagree with how they've done their job? That's basically what you're saying here.
    If the government does not respect your privacy and personal info then why should the same courtesy be extended to the government?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ikari is a hard core anti-government type, who'd be the first one to dial 911 if he heard his bushes rustle in the dead of night.
    He isn't a liberal.So if he heard a rustle in the bushes then only thing he would call the cops for is a dead intruder in the bushes.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If the government does not respect your privacy and personal info then why should the same courtesy be extended to the government?
    A cop isn't "the government." If he did his job poorly, there is a right and a wrong way to handle it.
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    Re: Hackers post copsí personal data to avenge Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    He isn't a liberal.So if he heard a rustle in the bushes then only thing he would call the cops for is a dead intruder in the bushes.
    So you're armed at all times, huh James? Or are you a liberal?
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