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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    The teaparty picked a loser here....Boehner doesnt run the house republicans....weakest speaker of the house in years

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Oh are you talking about the bill the passed a while back that was rejected by the senate? That was several rounds of negotiation back. Boehner agreed, publicly, to go along with whatever compromise the senate democrats made with the senate republicans. It appears that he intended to stand by his word, but the tea party caucus threatened revolt after the senate left and he caved in and went back on his commitment.
    No, I don't think so unless 'a while back' means a week or so ago...I'm talking about HR 3630. It passed the House on 12/13/11. My research revealed that the Senate didn't vote on the House bill but rather ammended it and sent it back to the House on 12/17/11.

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    No, I don't think so unless 'a while back' means a week or so ago...I'm talking about HR 3630. It passed the House on 12/13/11. My research revealed that the Senate didn't vote on the House bill but rather ammended it and sent it back to the House on 12/17/11.
    That's called voting on the House bill.

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Sure. The sentence on the Keystone XL pipeline is a falsehood (or at least a lie by omission).
    Thanks for your correction but why do you insinuate ‘lie by omission’? Why you gotta hate? I merely posted something for discussion and genuinely requested correction…then you gotta go accusing me of lying.

    That is not an up/down decision. That is a demand to up, or damn well explain the reason for down (which I assume the Republicans will then argue about). As such it is an insulting directive to the executive branch, that cannot be allowed to stand (for separation of powers purposes if nothing else).
    ‘Demand to up OR down with explanation (sic)’ as you stated sure sounds like he has an option??? I, for one, would like to hear the explanation if he says ‘No’ even if it is ‘because I want to’. INSULTING??? How about ‘you guys gotta ride in the back’?

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's called voting on the House bill.
    Huh? Relevance?

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, carry on, you bastion of Liberalism, the Wall Street Journal.

    Ranting about everthing being some kind of evil Leebrul plot is getting old.
    Wut? It's political punting the 60 days yo.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Wut? It's political punting the 60 days yo.
    No it isn't. When Boehner kicked this to the Senate, he said that the House would go along with any compromise that could be reached. The deal forged by Reed and McConnell (Who is not a Liberal, just in case you didn't know) extended the tax cut for 2 months in order to buy time to actually find some common ground. Then Boehner reneges on his promise, saying that a one year deal should have been done. But, in the beginning, Boehner was against any deal at all, including a one year deal. This is about political hostage taking, and in this case, the political execution of a bill that Mitch McConnell (Once again, he isn't a Liberal) himself endorsed. People will remember this, and the Democrats are going to score a whole crapload of points that they don't deserve because of it.
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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy, replying to Karl View Post
    Thanks for your correction but why do you insinuate ‘lie by omission’? Why you gotta hate? I merely posted something for discussion and genuinely requested correction…then you gotta go accusing me of lying. [...]
    Who accused you of lying? I assume you copied and pasted the text from Boehner's office, which would make him the liar were you desperate to inject a personal tone into a statement of fact (lying by omission).

    Try arguing the facts and leave the ad homs to those who specialize in losing arguments, hmm?

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No it isn't. When Boehner kicked this to the Senate, he said that the House would go along with any compromise that could be reached. The deal forged by Reed and McConnell (Who is not a Liberal, just in case you didn't know) extended the tax cut for 2 months in order to buy time to actually find some common ground. Then Boehner reneges on his promise, saying that a one year deal should have been done. But, in the beginning, Boehner was against any deal at all, including a one year deal. This is about political hostage taking, and in this case, the political execution of a bill that Mitch McConnell (Once again, he isn't a Liberal) himself endorsed. People will remember this, and the Democrats are going to score a whole crapload of points that they don't deserve because of it.
    Sure thing there Dan. You get that from MSNBC or from a DNC emailer?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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