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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Boehner isn't a Republican? What a coup for the Dems eh? Agree with Boehner and tell him to send them the 12 months and see if the Senate Republicans will vote against it if that's the case.
    The house already voted down the 12 month version once... What they're doing now is trying to figure out ways that they can obscure the fact that they don't support it with tricks. Now they're pretending that they support it because the senate is gone so they know it can't be passed. Before they claimed to support it with the pipeline, but when they actually got that, they had to change their story. Next they'll propose a 12 month version that is so loaded with ridiculous ultra right wing unrelated nonsense that no Democrat could possibly vote for it... You may be falling for that, but if you are, you're pretty much the only one in the country who is...

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The house already voted down the 12 month version once... What they're doing now is trying to figure out ways that they can obscure the fact that they don't support it with tricks. Now they're pretending that they support it because the senate is gone so they know it can't be passed. Before they claimed to support it with the pipeline, but when they actually got that, they had to change their story. Next they'll propose a 12 month version that is so loaded with ridiculous ultra right wing unrelated nonsense that no Democrat could possibly vote for it... You may be falling for that, but if you are, you're pretty much the only one in the country who is...
    Thank you. Someone actually gets this. This is nothing but political grandstanding. If House Regressives were actually concerned by the tax increase, they would take the two month deal with the pledge to have a deal though the end of the year worked out in 60 days. The idea of calling the Senate back to work in a panic to work on something that already has a valid extension on it is done only to try to shift the blame to the Dems.

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    This is all so unbelievably absurd...BALANCE THE BOOKS PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you don't have it, don't spend it, don't borrow it and don't allocate it.

    Buy what you need, not what you would "like to have"

    "Neither a borrower or a lender be"...sage advice for congress.

    All congress ever has had to do is learn how to use a personal checkbook and apply the same rules to the public coffer. But no, they have to play this game to continue to attempt to garner votes for the next election never considering the next generation. They are thieves and liars and should be stripped, whipped and run naked through the tall weeds!

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Now they put the house into recess right when the Democrats tried to force a vote. They know they would lose the vote so they're resorting to procedural tricks to try to prevent the middle class from getting one of the tax cuts that they are so adamant the rich need. It's disgusting. They are betraying the American people. Remember what they did today every time you pay your Boehner tax.

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    I would normally support a tax hike regardless of the recession, because it means an opportunity for more infrastructure planning; however, based on the bailouts, we know that the additional revenue will just be squandered by the Republicrats, probably on the private sector.

    Tax breaks set to expire by law should be allowed to, but I think our #1 problem is still our Congress itself. Everyone seems to want to reign in spending except when it comes to their own pet projects. Our government is ethically bankrupt.

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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Yes, because Employers can really afford to do 60 day tax calculations, and should be expected to plan the coming year based on this Banana Republic style Governing the President and Senate think is a good idea.

    Folks, the HOUSE all ready passed a 12 MONTH extension. The SENATE Dem's made a political calculation and tried to punt to get what they wanted. As a Conservative, of course I'm going to lean automatically towards the lower taxes, but in this case I'll go with the more common sense approach:

    60 days and hope.

    1 Year


    Which of the above helps the economy? Which of the above would give businesses a clear idea of costs and administrative bull**** they will need to figure out for the next 12 months? Which one is truly a job helper, and not a job harming option.


    Pinning this on the GOP is a liberals wet dream, playing heart strings and emotions hoping with the Christmas Season upon us, people will hear the House Rejects a Tax Cut!!! Instead of stopping for that two second heart beat to think about the difference in approaches.


    Carry on my liberal friends, denouncing the GOP for trying to push for 12 month tax policy, instead of 60 day political punts.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yes, because Employers can really afford to do 60 day tax calculations, and should be expected to plan the coming year based on this Banana Republic style Governing the President and Senate think is a good idea.

    Folks, the HOUSE all ready passed a 12 MONTH extension. The SENATE Dem's made a political calculation and tried to punt to get what they wanted. As a Conservative, of course I'm going to lean automatically towards the lower taxes, but in this case I'll go with the more common sense approach:

    60 days and hope.

    1 Year


    Which of the above helps the economy? Which of the above would give businesses a clear idea of costs and administrative bull**** they will need to figure out for the next 12 months? Which one is truly a job helper, and not a job harming option.


    Pinning this on the GOP is a liberals wet dream, playing heart strings and emotions hoping with the Christmas Season upon us, people will hear the House Rejects a Tax Cut!!! Instead of stopping for that two second heart beat to think about the difference in approaches.


    Carry on my liberal friends, denouncing the GOP for trying to push for 12 month tax policy, instead of 60 day political punts.
    yes, in fact, this will reflect poorly on the republicans.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yes, in fact, this will reflect poorly on the republicans.
    Smart intelligent planning is bad, 60 day ad hoc tax policy for political gain is good. GOTCHA! I thought you were better then that liblady, for some reason you have disappointed me here more then I thought possible.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Smart intelligent planning is bad, 60 day ad hoc tax policy for political gain is good. GOTCHA! I thought you were better then that liblady, for some reason you have disappointed me here more then I thought possible.
    i'm telling you the reality. this makes the republicans look bad in the eyes of country. are you saying otherwise?

    i would much prefer a year deal, but failing that, 60 days gives them some time to work on the other bull**** they are throwing into the bill.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama says Senate plan ‘only viable way’ to prevent tax hike

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm telling you the reality. this makes the republicans look bad in the eyes of country. are you saying otherwise?

    i would much prefer a year deal, but failing that, 60 days gives them some time to work on the other bull**** they are throwing into the bill.
    60 days is a political punt, and after average joe voter gets a few minutes to think about it, they'll realize what a bad deal 60 days is.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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