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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

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    I really don't get this argument anymore. Can someone explain how reducing Social Security and Medicare's funding by 16% is a good thing?
    They aren't reducing funding. The tax cuts are offset by other means and the offsetting revenue is directed to be paid into the appropriate trust funds.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That had nothing to do with it. Senate Dems made no secret of the fact that the House bill was unacceptable. Reid and McConnell knew that they were not going to be able to hammer out a long-term compromise before the holiday recess, so they sensibly passed a two-month extension that had near-unanimous support from both parties. McConnel was so pleased he was actually seen high-fiving one of his Republican colleagues.
    The Senators were obviously mistaken.

    If you think that Reid doesn't hold up legislation because his members are afraid that their constituents will see their shenanigans, I've got a bridge for sale you need to look at.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The Senators were obviously mistaken.

    If you think that Reid doesn't hold up legislation because his members are afraid that their constituents will see their shenanigans, I've got a bridge for sale you need to look at.
    Not saying it doesn't happen, but that's not what happened in this case. If Senate Democrats voted for the House bill their constituents would have been angry as hell. IOW, your assertion makes no sense.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not saying it doesn't happen, but that's not what happened in this case. If Senate Democrats voted for the House bill their constituents would have been angry as hell. IOW, your assertion makes no sense.
    You really believe Manchin's and Baucus's constituents would have been angry ???

    Be honest.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You really believe Manchin's and Baucus's constituents would have been angry ???

    Be honest.
    The vast majority of Democrats would be furious if their Senator voted for that POS House bill. If you claim to be honest you will have to acknowledge that. Manchin and Baucus could have voted for it if they wanted to.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Let's not forget that the Senate passed this bill by an overwhelming majority--89-10. This means that even the majority of Republicans were on board with it.

    Now this. Normally I don't wish this, but I hope the Senate goes on vacation until at least New Year's. They passed the bill, and while it wasn't a great one, at least they passed it. Meanwhile, Boehner has decided to plunge the House into a circus show. And he's already taking a hit for it politically.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The vast majority of Democrats would be furious if their Senator voted for that POS House bill. If you claim to be honest you will have to acknowledge that. Manchin and Baucus could have voted for it if they wanted to.
    Senators have to, or at least should, vote for all their constituents, not just Dems.

    How could they have voted for the House bill. It was never allowed to come before the Senate by Reid.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Let's not forget that the Senate passed this bill by an overwhelming majority--89-10. This means that even the majority of Republicans were on board with it.

    Now this. Normally I don't wish this, but I hope the Senate goes on vacation until at least New Year's. They passed the bill, and while it wasn't a great one, at least they passed it. Meanwhile, Boehner has decided to plunge the House into a circus show. And he's already taking a hit for it politically.
    The House passed their bill too. What's the fact that the Senate passed their version have to do with anything? It takes two to tango.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No, they didn't vote on it because they didn't want their constituents to know how they would vote on it. If Reid was honest, he would allow a vote and let the members of the Senate decide whether they wanted it passed or not.
    Except it was the HOUSE that didn't have a roll call vote. The Senate did have a roll call vote (and 39 Republicans voted Yes by the way). So it's Boehner being dishonest, right?
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Senators have to, or at least should, vote for all their constituents, not just Dems.

    How could they have voted for the House bill. It was never allowed to come before the Senate by Reid.
    Again, you are making crap up.

    The Senate voted first. Reid didn't disallow the House bill from coming for a vote.
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