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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Boehner refused to allow a vote on the Senate bill because there was a good chance that it would pass.
    Or maybe it's because a 2-month extension is friggin' dumb. Just like it was dumb every other time it's been done. It will just take more time away from other important issues when they have to come back and work down to the damned wire again for another stupid short-term solution. Long-term solutions have been asked for over and over again and the government has failed over and over again to provide them. Somebody does, and you want to turn it into a hack issue of the super-hero Harry Reid over the super-villian Boehner.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahhh, guess it's time of another Civics lesson.

    Of course it's not necessary if both houses pass identical legislation, except that almost never happens. Remember the healthcare reform bill and the twists the Dems had to do to reconcile the two bills.

    If the bills are not identical word for word, then a conference must be held. And of course the Constitution does not specifically mention conference committees. It DOES say that each house must pass and sign the exact same bill before it can be sent to the president.

    The conference committee is the method devised to do just that.
    no, a conference does NOT have to held. the bill could simply be presented for a vote, period.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    They didn't vote on it because it was a nonstarter and everyone, including House Republicans, knew it.
    Why should bills simply die when they reach the senate because it is decided a nonstarter?

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

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    Why should bills simply die when it reaches the senate because it is decided a nonstarter?
    In the field of Political Science we have a very technical name for this concept

    REALITY.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In the field of Political Science we have a very technical name for this concept

    REALITY.
    Except that it almost always just an excuse for the desire to not have a vote.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    They didn't vote on it because it was a nonstarter and everyone, including House Republicans, knew it.
    No, they didn't vote on it because they didn't want their constituents to know how they would vote on it. If Reid was honest, he would allow a vote and let the members of the Senate decide whether they wanted it passed or not.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Except that it almost always just an excuse for the desire to not have a vote.
    Which is also a form of action.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    I really don't get this argument anymore. Can someone explain how reducing Social Security and Medicare's funding by 16% is a good thing?

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No, they didn't vote on it because they didn't want their constituents to know how they would vote on it. If Reid was honest, he would allow a vote and let the members of the Senate decide whether they wanted it passed or not.
    That had nothing to do with it. Senate Dems made no secret of the fact that the House bill was unacceptable. Reid and McConnell knew that they were not going to be able to hammer out a long-term compromise before the holiday recess, so they sensibly passed a two-month extension that had near-unanimous support from both parties. McConnel was so pleased he was actually seen high-fiving one of his Republican colleagues.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    no, a conference does NOT have to held. the bill could simply be presented for a vote, period.
    Wow, you're quick..... The bill has to be voted down before a conference committee is called.

    Of course they don't have to take it to conference if the bills differ. They only have to take it to the conference committee if they want the bill to become law, or one of the sides has to accept the other body's bill as originally written.

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