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Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

Wow, suddenly you're really busy. You had plenty of time to fume about how wrong I was. You'd think that if, as you said, it happens all the time that it would be easy for you to find me a bill.

You're right. I wasted too much time on you. I have two reports to write before the end of the day. You'll get your answers when I have time.
 
Sorry, not going to do your homework for you. If you don't know the difference in the two, I suggest you follow my advice and look them up. You shouldn't be ashamed for your ignorance of the subject.

The difference between a one-year tax holiday for average people and a ten-year temporary tax cut is nine years, many billions of dollars, and a buttload of hypocrisy supplied by, among others, you.
 
Whatever makes you happy.

Feel free to wallow in your ignorance.

Again, your concession is noted. I don't know why you feel the need to keep telling me you conceeded.
 
You're right. I wasted too much time on you. I have two reports to write before the end of the day. You'll get your answers when I have time.

Uh-huh. So now you won't be wasting any time posting on any threads today, huh, because you're so busy? Right.

I think we both know you won't ever be giving me an answer.
 
False.

Please post a bill in the last Congress - one that’s not a non-controversial one like renaming a Post Office or whatever, or an emergency bill - that passed both chambers without amendments, or passed the second chamber without amendments after being passed over from the first.

I’ll wait.



Why would they do that? The Senate can’t have input on a bill? It should just vote up or down on every bill that comes from the House, and vice versa?

Moreover, now that the House has a Senate tax bill - why doesn’t it pass the Senate bill without amendments? Because the House went first?



I never said that.

It voted on the House bill, after amending it. Which is how it works with every major bill.

For some unexplained reason, Gill thinks that all 100 Senators should agree to give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on what is placed in front of them.
 
For some unexplained reason, Gill thinks that all 100 Senators should agree to give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on what is placed in front of them.

But it happens all the time! :roll:
 
And I would suggest a writing class for you.

I also suggest you look up a tax holiday and a tax cut on Wiki. I'm sure it explains it clearly and you can see how a properly composed sentence can be written so that it makes sense.

Since Gill refuses to back up his own claim, I did it for him, and it reveals why Gill refuses to do so

Tax holiday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A tax holiday is a temporary reduction or elimination of a tax.

Gee, it appears that the bush* tax cuts *were* a "tax holiday", even though Gill seems to be having a problem understanding that
 
Gill might actually go do his little search for a major bill that passed a chamber without amendment. He might even find one he thinks qualifies, and then I'll have to explain to him why he's wrong, and the bill actually was amended but through a process he doesn't understand (such as at the committee level only), and that will take another few days while he yells about "liberals" and then stomps off again and suddenly gets busy at work.
 
Gill might actually go do his little search for a major bill that passed a chamber without amendment. He might even find one he thinks qualifies, and then I'll have to explain to him why he's wrong, and the bill actually was amended but through a process he doesn't understand (such as at the committee level only), and that will take another few days while he yells about "liberals" and then stomps off again and suddenly gets busy at work.

He might.

Or he might not

I think I know what the smart money is saying
 
For some unexplained reason, Gill thinks that all 100 Senators should agree to give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on what is placed in front of them.

And you seem to believe that all 435 Representatives should give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on whatever is placed in front of them.
 
Gill might actually go do his little search for a major bill that passed a chamber without amendment. He might even find one he thinks qualifies, and then I'll have to explain to him why he's wrong, and the bill actually was amended but through a process he doesn't understand (such as at the committee level only), and that will take another few days while he yells about "liberals" and then stomps off again and suddenly gets busy at work.

You don't sound so cocky now.............

I have time to post a quick reply now and then today, but no time for the extensive research this requires. Maybe I'll time over the long Christmas weekend.
 
I'm reposting this so it can move past the childish rants of a few and get some real debate going.

I'll give a very original reply to this that I think no one has posted yet. I think everyone in Congress is wrong about this politically and fiscally, and I'll tell you why. The Dems are wrong because A) The cut they proposed (with GOP minority support) does not fund itself properly and has no long term plan B) They are cutting funding for the very program they always champion, Social Security C) They are punishing Freddie and Fannie, 2 companies they have a vested interest in seeing prosper. The GOP and Tea Party are wrong because A) They are cutting the one tax that can vilify them later. I don't put it past the Dems to use the fact that they want to cut this tax longer as a later argument that the conservatives are trying to bankrupt Social Security. Honestly, would that surprise anyone on this? B) The House should have made it known they would not vote this bill in a lot sooner than they did C) The GOP and Tea Party (notice I didn't mention them as one party) should have suggested another kind of tax cut besides the payroll tax. In addition, why would anyone want to cut this tax longer, which is something both parties want to do, just at different times. This is the last tax our gov't should be going after. As jacked up and underfunded as Social Security is, we should not be cutting the only source of funding for it. I don't agree with Social Security one iota. However, a promise was made to the American people, including myself, that we would get what we put in. I think Social Security should overhauled and made voluntary, but that's neither here nor there because its still active and we have to solve it. There you have it, a non-partisan look at how stupid our Congress is, no matter the party affiliation
 
And you seem to believe that all 435 Representatives should give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on whatever is placed in front of them.

So they shouldn't? But didn't you just say it happens all the time?

I thought you were busy writing reports.
 
False.

Please post a bill in the last Congress - one that’s not a non-controversial one like renaming a Post Office or whatever, or an emergency bill - that passed both chambers without amendments, or passed the second chamber without amendments after being passed over from the first.

I’ll wait.



Why would they do that? The Senate can’t have input on a bill? It should just vote up or down on every bill that comes from the House, and vice versa?

Moreover, now that the House has a Senate tax bill - why doesn’t it pass the Senate bill without amendments? Because the House went first?



I never said that.

It voted on the House bill, after amending it. Which is how it works with every major bill.
he got it wrong
you gave him a much needed civics lesson
and now he is still stinging from his very public humiliation
i refuse to engage in his deflection any further
 
You don't sound so cocky now.............

I have time to post a quick reply now and then today, but no time for the extensive research this requires. Maybe I'll time over the long Christmas weekend.

Extensive research? But you said it happens all the time. Shouldn't be hard to find a bill. Here, I'll help you start: THOMAS (Library of Congress)

I think we all know how this is going to end.

You don't sound so cocky now.
 
Thanks for the advice. I'll decide when to drop something.

what was even funnier was his following up that admonition by re-posting an inane argument which was no better the second time around
 
Thanks for the advice. I'll decide when to drop something.
I'm sorry internet tough guy. I'll shut up now because I feel threatened by your typing skills.:shock:
 
what was even funnier was his following up that admonition by re-posting an inane argument which was no better the second time around
Dispute it then. What's your grand plan? The name of the website is "Debatepolitics" after all.
 
You're acting like an ass. Maybe you shouldn't try emulating your liberal buddies on here so closely.

I thought you were busy. But as I predicted, you're still spewing empty comments sprinkled with "liberals" while pretending to be too busy to find what you claimed exists, but doesn't.
 
I thought you were busy. But as I predicted, you're still spewing empty comments sprinkled with "liberals" while pretending to be too busy to find what you claimed exists, but doesn't.

I know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, but typing a short reply here and there doesn't take much time. Doing some research on the internet does.

It's obvious you've never looked on Thomas because it takes a little time to find anything there. You'll get your answer when I have time to look for it.
 
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