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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Hence the overwhelming bipartisan vote in the Senate?
    So the Senate lead by Democrats would rather play politcs (both sides) than do what is right. got it.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

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    So the Senate lead by Democrats would rather play politcs (both sides) than do what is right. got it.
    You do know what bipartisan means, right?

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You do know what bipartisan means, right?
    A two month extension of a tax cut is about as idiotic as renting a car for 30 seconds. I don’t care if it’s bipartisan or not…stupid is stupid.

    It is good to see you, AdamT, going on the record as an opponent of tax hikes and claiming that the economy will fail if the working middle class pays $20 to $60 more a month for their social security benefits.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    A two month extension of a tax cut is about as idiotic as renting a car for 30 seconds. I don’t care if it’s bipartisan or not…stupid is stupid.

    It is good to see you, AdamT, going on the record as an opponent of tax hikes and claiming that the economy will fail if the working middle class pays $20 to $60 more a month for their social security benefits.
    I'm opposed to withdrawing the only effective stimulus we're likely to get, when the economy really needs stimulus to avoid a Japan-style lost decade. While $60 to $125 (not $20 to $60) per month may not sound like much, it means a lot to people who are struggling to pay their bills, and economists estimate that it will boost GDP by .5 to 1.5% ... which is pretty damned signifanct when we're only at 2% GDP growth *with* the tax cut.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    and what do the middle class do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy. So with no guarentees after two month, you think that people who drive the economy have confidence? The Senate Dems who are so concerned about the middle class should have worked and passed a long term fix. This patchwork type approuch shows their inability to lead or function (and that is on both sides).
    I both agree and commend you sir.... your comment also applies to the poor, not just middle class. So, when you see middle class (where I quote you) please consider this as an implicit "and the lower classes". I will bold it to show it is my insertion.

    So, lets extend this thought....

    1. Unemployment benefits are generally given to the middle and lower classes....
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    and what do the middle class and lower classes do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy
    2. Welfare is generally given to the lower classes.....
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    and what do the middle class and lower classes do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy
    3. Food stamps (which cost actual money) are generally given to the lower classes....
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    and what do the middle class and lower classes do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy
    4. Educational grants and assistance are generally given to the middle and lower classes....
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    and what do the middle class and lower classes do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy
    5. Housing assistance is generally given to the lower classes....
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    and what do the middle class and lower classes do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy
    6. Medical assistance is generally given to the lower classes....
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    and what do the middle class and lower classes do with the money? Mostly spend it. by spending they help the economy

    Now, given the fact the spending money is good for the economy, and I agree, care to analyze how those persons in the top 1% spend their money in relation to what they have earned? Also, it should be noted that the ability to save money is also good for the economy, but only in so much as those savings allow you to have the ability to spend when you are no longer able to earn, for whatever reason. In short, money hoarded (saved without eventually being spent) inhibits economic progress.

    Thank you for liking mike2810's comment Tess, that shows courage.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No doubt the Dems want to save some kind of political play for the election, instead of just passing something for the entire year.
    I agree they should have passed something for the entire year, but the bill should have stood on its own. Its the Repubs that refused to pass the straight bill, but chose to poison it with the controversial rider. While its fair game for the Repubs to insist on spending cuts; coupling the bill with the Keystone pipeline was not a serious attempt to address the issue, it was pure politics. This failure and this tax HIKE is on the Regressives.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm opposed to withdrawing the only effective stimulus we're likely to get, when the economy really needs stimulus to avoid a Japan-style lost decade. While $60 to $125 (not $20 to $60) per month may not sound like much, it means a lot to people who are struggling to pay their bills, and economists estimate that it will boost GDP by .5 to 1.5% ... which is pretty damned signifanct when we're only at 2% GDP growth *with* the tax cut.
    The economy doesn’t need a stimulus, but even if it did, you can’t be serious about this 2 month extension being a stimulus. This is about politics rather than what is best for the nation.

    The problem with your logic is you don’t take into account the impossible task such a stupid law requires of the private sector, the social security admin and all the pencil pushers who must plan, calculate, adjust and adapt to changes in the tax law.

    The democrats and republicans (this includes Obama) are more interested in the political game of painting the opposition into a corner than they are in doing what is best for the American people or the country.

    Try to spin your 2 month tax bill as anything but that AdamT.


    Get real! A two month tax bill? Seriously???
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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    So why can't they modify the Senate bill so that it has a one year term instead of 2-month term, wouldn't everyone be happy then? Or would it still not pass the House and Senate?

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    I don't know what all the whining is about. The Senate and Congress are comprised mostly of people 45+ in age. They deserve a break just like anyone else - they aren't slaves.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    So why can't they modify the Senate bill so that it has a one year term instead of 2-month term, wouldn't everyone be happy then? Or would it still not pass the House and Senate?
    It's all smoke and mirrors on both sides.... they could easily pass the 2 month extension with an amendment that no one (in congress) is allowed to leave until a 12 month extension is passed... its all (on both sides) political pandering.

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