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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    For some unexplained reason, Gill thinks that all 100 Senators should agree to give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on what is placed in front of them.
    And you seem to believe that all 435 Representatives should give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on whatever is placed in front of them.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Gill might actually go do his little search for a major bill that passed a chamber without amendment. He might even find one he thinks qualifies, and then I'll have to explain to him why he's wrong, and the bill actually was amended but through a process he doesn't understand (such as at the committee level only), and that will take another few days while he yells about "liberals" and then stomps off again and suddenly gets busy at work.
    You don't sound so cocky now.............

    I have time to post a quick reply now and then today, but no time for the extensive research this requires. Maybe I'll time over the long Christmas weekend.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Still waiting, Gill.
    Drop it bro, its getting old.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    I'm reposting this so it can move past the childish rants of a few and get some real debate going.

    I'll give a very original reply to this that I think no one has posted yet. I think everyone in Congress is wrong about this politically and fiscally, and I'll tell you why. The Dems are wrong because A) The cut they proposed (with GOP minority support) does not fund itself properly and has no long term plan B) They are cutting funding for the very program they always champion, Social Security C) They are punishing Freddie and Fannie, 2 companies they have a vested interest in seeing prosper. The GOP and Tea Party are wrong because A) They are cutting the one tax that can vilify them later. I don't put it past the Dems to use the fact that they want to cut this tax longer as a later argument that the conservatives are trying to bankrupt Social Security. Honestly, would that surprise anyone on this? B) The House should have made it known they would not vote this bill in a lot sooner than they did C) The GOP and Tea Party (notice I didn't mention them as one party) should have suggested another kind of tax cut besides the payroll tax. In addition, why would anyone want to cut this tax longer, which is something both parties want to do, just at different times. This is the last tax our gov't should be going after. As jacked up and underfunded as Social Security is, we should not be cutting the only source of funding for it. I don't agree with Social Security one iota. However, a promise was made to the American people, including myself, that we would get what we put in. I think Social Security should overhauled and made voluntary, but that's neither here nor there because its still active and we have to solve it. There you have it, a non-partisan look at how stupid our Congress is, no matter the party affiliation
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And you seem to believe that all 435 Representatives should give up their responsibility to craft legislation, and just act like automatons and vote on whatever is placed in front of them.
    So they shouldn't? But didn't you just say it happens all the time?

    I thought you were busy writing reports.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    False.

    Please post a bill in the last Congress - one that’s not a non-controversial one like renaming a Post Office or whatever, or an emergency bill - that passed both chambers without amendments, or passed the second chamber without amendments after being passed over from the first.

    I’ll wait.



    Why would they do that? The Senate can’t have input on a bill? It should just vote up or down on every bill that comes from the House, and vice versa?

    Moreover, now that the House has a Senate tax bill - why doesn’t it pass the Senate bill without amendments? Because the House went first?



    I never said that.

    It voted on the House bill, after amending it. Which is how it works with every major bill.
    he got it wrong
    you gave him a much needed civics lesson
    and now he is still stinging from his very public humiliation
    i refuse to engage in his deflection any further
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Drop it bro, its getting old.
    Thanks for the advice. I'll decide when to drop something.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You don't sound so cocky now.............

    I have time to post a quick reply now and then today, but no time for the extensive research this requires. Maybe I'll time over the long Christmas weekend.
    Extensive research? But you said it happens all the time. Shouldn't be hard to find a bill. Here, I'll help you start: THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    I think we all know how this is going to end.

    You don't sound so cocky now.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Thanks for the advice. I'll decide when to drop something.
    what was even funnier was his following up that admonition by re-posting an inane argument which was no better the second time around
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Thanks for the advice. I'll decide when to drop something.
    I'm sorry internet tough guy. I'll shut up now because I feel threatened by your typing skills.
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