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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    H.R.3630: Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Continuation Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

    That doesn't look like the result of good compromising. That looks like voting mostly on party lines.

    If our taxes go up on New Year's Day, it will be 100% on John Boehner and the House Republicans. Even Mitch McConnell knew better than to take that hit.
    Yep, and the ads will read "The Republicans love tax cuts - for the rich. But not for you."
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    H.R.3630: Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Continuation Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

    That doesn't look like the result of good compromising. That looks like voting mostly on party lines.

    If our taxes go up on New Year's Day, it will be 100% on John Boehner and the House Republicans. Even Mitch McConnell knew better than to take that hit.
    My taxes went up the day before Christmas. Thanks democratic leaders of CT.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Again, you are making crap up.

    The Senate voted first. Reid didn't disallow the House bill from coming for a vote.
    Please provide proof.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Please provide proof.
    And you claim to know more than me about how Congress works.

    It is irrelevant which bill is voted on. All that matters is what is in the bill that is passed.

    If one chamber wants a completely different bill, it can vote on its own bill - or it can simply amend a bill that came from the other chamber by replacing the entire contents with its own version. (An "amendment in the nature of a substitute").

    So saying that the Senate didn't allow the House bill to come to a vote is a completely meaningless statement. The Senate voted on and passed its version of the bill. If it had taken up the House version, it would have simply amended it to be the exact same bill that it ended up passing. The only difference would have been the number on the bill.

    As far as I can tell, that's exactly what happened, though I haven't tracked it all down. But you may be correct about the part where the House sent a bill to the Senate first. I haven't looked at the timeline in detail.
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    And once again the Republicans refuse to take up the House bill. On top of that, they cut off the C-Span feed (which is controlled by the Speaker of the House's office) to mute the backlash.


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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And once again the Republicans refuse to take up the House bill. On top of that, they cut off the C-Span feed (which is controlled by the Speaker of the House's office) to mute the backlash.

    so much for transparency
    what is the speaker of the house needing to hide from the public?
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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Oh, I almost forgot. In addition to the lame, pathetic hypocrisy of the House whining about the Senate passing a short-term bill and then adjourning - after the House did exactly the same thing this past summer and triggered a partial shutdown of the FAA - the House voted down the Senate's short-term tax extension this week using a version of the "deem and pass" procedure that they freaked out about when the Democrats used it to pass the health care bill last year, so they could avoid having a roll call vote showing a bunch of Republicans voting down a tax cut.
    Except its a damned appropriations bill which is exactly what its supposed to be used for.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    wth is an indepent?
    That would be a typo mixed with my lack of care to change it.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And you claim to know more than me about how Congress works.

    It is irrelevant which bill is voted on. All that matters is what is in the bill that is passed.

    If one chamber wants a completely different bill, it can vote on its own bill - or it can simply amend a bill that came from the other chamber by replacing the entire contents with its own version. (An "amendment in the nature of a substitute").

    So saying that the Senate didn't allow the House bill to come to a vote is a completely meaningless statement. The Senate voted on and passed its version of the bill. If it had taken up the House version, it would have simply amended it to be the exact same bill that it ended up passing. The only difference would have been the number on the bill.

    As far as I can tell, that's exactly what happened, though I haven't tracked it all down. But you may be correct about the part where the House sent a bill to the Senate first. I haven't looked at the timeline in detail.
    Instead of posting this diatribe, you could have simply said you were wrong.

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    Re: Boehner demands Senate cancel its vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Except its a damned appropriations bill which is exactly what its supposed to be used for.
    1. No, it isn't an appropriations bill.
    2. No, deem and pass is not used specificially on appropriations bills.

    Wrong on all counts.
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